Soviet union culture

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  1. Sovietskaja Zenzina

    Sovietskaja Zenzina New Member

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    Myself I am biggest fan of Soviet films, art, plays, ballets. The greater view on material matters,powerful stories. The entire history from Russian writers gave stories to us to break down of capitalism. Tosltoy, Dostojevsky and many more.
    I wish to ask others views can you digest modern culture as I call it anti proletarian culture.
     
  2. General Winter

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    There is nothing to digest for there is no modern culture.The era of late capitalism is a decadence and a decay in all areas of society including culture.
     
  3. EvilAztec

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    General said truth.
    And now your turn 'Sovietskaja Zenzina' " Советская Женщина " to reply
     
  4. Sovietskaja Zenzina

    Sovietskaja Zenzina New Member

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    Most I did enjoyed films.
    "Moscow don't believe in tears"
    "17 Moments of the Spring"
    Films about Lenin and the list would be long.

    Plays I should mention "Tree Sisters", "The Cherry Orchard",
    Films Ballets are they wonderful "Aniuta"
     
  5. MaxRiga

    MaxRiga Banned

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    this would be a great topic if not narrow minded replies ...
     
  6. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think that the great thing about the Soviet Union was that, as a compensation for turning State Capitalist, it was very serious about proletarian culture, and we see from its demise what the monopoly-capitalist equivalent is. Unfortunately, the notion that the government can mess about with culture and ban certain kinds of books, painting and music is ultimately totally destructive and wiped out a great culture just as surely as (on a much smaller scale) did DeValera's RC censorship in the Irish Republic. Good art is anarchistic, I reckon.
     
  7. General Winter

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    So the basis of the USSR was capitalist but the superstructure ( culture ) was proletariat,ie socialist.Can somebody understand this bullsh*t?
     
  8. Potap

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    The Soviet cinema was one of the best in the world, for my opinion. I try to collect a collection of old Soviet films. In the greater degree I love comedies. My favorites: "Girls","Девчата"; "It has happened in Penkovo", " Дело было в Пенькове "; " "3+2"; " Carnival night", "Кaрнавальная ночь ";" Caucasian captive ", "Кавказская пленница";"Operation i ", "Операция ы".
    Speaking about melodramas. " Office Romance ", " Служебный роман " of course.
     
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    Potap Well-Known Member

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    And one of them is yours one.
     
  10. Sovietskaja Zenzina

    Sovietskaja Zenzina New Member

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    Well would you wiling to open your mind about this topic?
     
  11. MaxRiga

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    Soviet cinema, same as Soviet ballet, theater, poetry, music and so on, is the part of the Soviet art. And Soviet art is part of the Soviet culture.

    If you want to discuss Soviet art there is no need to create topic called Soviet culture. Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky have nothing to do with Soviet culture.

    P.S. You and other Russians on this forum remind me frog in ugly and stinky swamp. The frog lives in this swamp and thinks that the swamp in most beautiful place on the earth only because the frog has never been outside of its swamp. And no matter what others say to the frog it changes nothing. The frog in narrow minded and knows nothing except the life in its swamp.

    P.S.S. Soviet Union starts with caps letters same as other countries names. Look at your topic name, Mrs. Patriot.
     
  12. Sovietskaja Zenzina

    Sovietskaja Zenzina New Member

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    Why are you here if so stinky of swamp? I would not bother to comment any more about frogs and swamps.


    You mentioned Tolstoy nothing to do with Soviet Union I am afraid so is to do a lot of. Because you are so anti of something either anti cultured the are confusion to understand.
    All political ideologies nationalist/ideological pride and propaganda and I do like it Soviet Propaganda is better than frogs.
     
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    MaxRiga Banned

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    There are 5 active Russian speaking users on this forum and all of them are teenagers including you. I bet your age is from 16 to 19. Some other Russian teenagers might be 18-21 in this part of the forum.

    You guys are too young to understand many things but it is good to see you are trying to increase your skills in English.

    I'd love to participate in discussing Soviet culture as soon as I see something straight to the good point.
     
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    Did someone tell you you're just boring misanthrope?
     
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    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not the simpler souls amongst us, naturally, but to the normal intelligence it is clear that the state capitalist government claimed workers' support outsied the USSR and therefore had to make gestures at proletarian culture. Ask one of your keepers to explain that s-l-o-w-l-y, Winter.
     
  16. raymondo

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    Why do you jump to such a conclusion ? It is not logically implied by his remarks .
    And I tend to agree with him .
    Russian excellence has declined sharply in the last 90 years , and that short period of previous stylised culture has gone and there is nothing obvious to replace even a large part of it .
    I will be delighted to be proved wrong . Trouble is , the evidence is invisible imho .
     
  17. MaxRiga

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    I'm used to hear illogical conclusions from that user. Once he guessed like 10 times who am I. He was so funny. When I told him he was wrong he gave up by saying - I don't care. Lol, why did u guess if u don't care? Such an illogical guy with very small IQ level.

    To Sovetskaja Zhenshina

    Please, don't disturb my privacy and do not write me any PM's any more. I know it is part of the Soviet culture to do not care about somebody else privacy but I guess you have to change your habits on this forum now. I will report to moderator and you will be banned if you will keep sending me your arrogant PM’s.
     
  18. Potap

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    This forum is periodically visited by trolls which can be divided into two categories.
    1 funny trolls, the ornament of the forum, amusing users.
    2 boring trolls with the overestimated self-estimation which pursue other users to prove them how far they don't care about them..
    The second one category obviously consist of different kinds of misanthropes, which usually use misanthropy as psychological indemnification of own inferiority complex and other psychological problems.
    As this is international word and you speak Russian, there is a good definition of this word in Russian. http://lurkmore.to/Мизантроп
     
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    Potap Well-Known Member

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    I understand that you worry of any attempts to break your records. But do not worry, the obvious champion of unfounded arrogance at this subforum You are.
     
  20. raymondo

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    Unfortunately I never learned Russian so I cannot explore your links .
    With regards to the word , "misanthrope" , we use it to mean someone who finds mankind disgusting or loathsome . It's a word rarely seen nowadays , probably because there are so few who truly fit the description . Certainly there is nobody in this Forum , although many are badly challenged and angry . They may be almost universally disliked by others , but that is a different matter.
    As for , Trolls , my personal view is much simpler than yours and probably most others here .
    There is the type who deliberately posts Off Topic but for other agenda reasons . They can only be picked up over a period of time .
    But many of us go Off Topic occasionally just for added interest , relaxation and fun . And this can be fine , particularly if they are interesting and amusing . They are not Trolls -- just people who annoy or irritate some people, some of the time .
    Then there is the type that deliberately provokes . However , this can also be a difficult area to adjudicate .
    Often a person introduces reasonable and new ideas into a Topic that are too different and/or unusual for the other members -- or a few of them . They are labelled Trolls and this is a huge mistake . So often , it simply means that the respondent cannot handle differing viewpoints , particularly if they touch sensitive points of political or religious matters .
    Many Americans here fit that description because they have previously only mixed with people who hold similar views , are not used to being rubbished and are insular by nature and background .
    Their use of the term Troll is often emotional and a subterfuge for avoiding standard name calling .
    Those are my opinions for better or worse .
     
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    Of the Soviet films I've wathced some comedy films of Leonid Gaidai like "кавказская пленица" и "бриллантовая рука" were quite interesting.
     
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    Бриллиантовая рука / The Diamond Arm

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlNAWZ4dVQ&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjlNAWZ4dVQ&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1[/ame]
     
  23. Sovietskaja Zenzina

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    Well MaxRiga still problem with frogs and my age.

    I just remember not long time I watched again " Long road to the dunes" Is highly recommend if could possible to find with English subtitles.
    Love story son of fishermen. Carry out difficulties post war Stalinist era, good music worth to watch it.
    Тихи Дон (1957) And Quiet Flows the Don
    Master peace in my opinion. Russian Revolution, and the following Civil War. The Cossacs are shown as traditional farmers and warriors, who are suffering through the most dramatic events in the history of Russia.
    I am almost sure is possible to find with English subtitles so please enjoy if you could.
     
  24. Sovietskaja Zenzina

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    What about "Ivan Vasilevich menyaet professiyu" is funny and good.
     
  25. General Winter

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    Each socio-economic structure inherit their type of culture.The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. The ruling ideas are nothing more than the ideal expression of the dominant material relationships.It is simply to unferstand even for west normal intelligencia what follows from the fact that Soviet culture was proletarian.
     

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