State Of The Union Speech

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

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    No freeze for repubs.

    But, he did hit it out of the park

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-of-the-park-on-sotu.617274/#post-1074696230
     
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    Ive been surfing all over the cable channels. I am not seeing much agreement that this helped Biden expand his base
     
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    Quit exaggerating. It's rich that you are concerned about lies when your side supports the man who has lied more than any president or candidate for president in history.
    Well, one things is certain, they are nowhere near as bad as you think things are.
    No president in history has ever solved the border problem.

    Republicans now own the border problem owing to their failure to back the Republican led Senate Bill.

    That's not a lie, that's a fact.
    Not to decrease the debt, but to shrink the wealth and income gap.
    Sure, if you vote for Trump, you are voting to destroy democracy, if you vote for Biden, you are voting to save democracy. Of course that is the number one priority. If democracy is under threat, there is nothing more important than saving it.

    Votes can save, or destroy democracy. You want some historical examples?
     
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    Doesn’t really need to expand though, just needs to keep most he had last time. And that was before abortion became a real issue nationally again.
     
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    Very fair…
     
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    Joe Biden's screaming and shrieking was pretty weird. Seemed like a "proof of life" speech aimed at trying to get the Dems not to replace him at the convention. A hyper partisan mean speech of a desperate cantankerous old man trying to consolidate his base with no elements that reached out to the middle, or the right in a broad-based appeal to all of the Electorate.
     
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    Well, sorry to disappoint you. Biden did very well.

    RCP averages put Trump at 1.8 pts ahead, based on the averages of a ll the polls.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden

    Several weeks ago, trump was ahead on EVERY poll.

    Two weeks ago, he was ahead on all but two.

    Today, he is ahead on all but 4.

    Facts:

    1. Biden is gaining and there are 7 more months to go.
    2. Trump is increasingly becoming more unglued, crazy, cognitive decline, slurry speech, misplacing words repeatedly without correcting himself, etc.
    3. Trump is likely to go bankrupt, again, owing to his financial problems
    4. Trump will be in court a lot during the next 7 months.
    5. Dems have won a number of recent elections.

    Conclusion: don't count your chickens.....

    Tonight:

    Given tonight's SOTU which Biden just recently finished, given the caliber of his performance, there is no way in hell you can objectively make that claim. Biden rose to the task and hit it out of the park. There is absolutely way someone with cognitive decline/dementia, etc., could have performed as well as Biden performed tonight. It was intense, forceful, well articulated, he hit all the right points, and scored a massive 4 point home run. this 'biden has dementia' narrative is now dead.
     
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    I'm not a fan of the cantankerous shrieking.

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    You need to remove those cracked lens you see the world through, you are not seeing straight.

    What I saw was quite different.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...me-joe-hit-it-out-of-the-park-on-sotu.617274/
     
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    other than hard core Democrat operatives, who is backing you up. This was the most partisan SOTU speech I have ever heard. He certainly made no effort to unite the country. Your criteria for success was that Biden didn't appear demented or senile, just angry, stuttering and divisive

    wow
     
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    Compared to what, love letters to Kim Jong Un?

    Hah!
     
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    Super partisan. Only commie leftists could get behind things like more border security, quoting Reagan, opposing political violence, loving America….
     
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    Super partisan. Only commie leftists could get behind things like moreborder security, quotingReagan, opposing politicalviolence, loving America…
     
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    Yeah Border security is a winning issue for Biden.
     
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    He’s ready to sign the bipartisan border security bill that’s been endorsed by the border patrol union, so where is it?
     
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    Trump, in the 'unite the country' department, does far far worse, and you don't make that complaint, but if Biden doesn't kiss MAGA butt, you gotta problem. How partisan of you.

    No, he just recognizes that MAGA people are lost as they are glued to Trump like white on rice, and there is no point appealing to them, but he did praise Nikki for her courage in standing up to Trump, so he was appealing to her followers, now that she has bowed out. Naturally, you missed that one.
     
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    whataboutism I smell. Biden's a failure. He also is an inveterate liar

    example (Breitbart-this is correct)
    FACT CHECK CLAIM: Joe Biden claimed during his 2024 State of the Union address on Thursday evening that the Supreme Court’s Dobbs decision overturning Roe v. Wade enabled the Alabama Supreme Court to rule that frozen embryos created during the in vitro fertilization (IVF) process are unborn children. VERDICT: FALSE — The Alabama Supreme Court’s Feb. 16 decision had nothing to do with the Dobbs decision, which returned the issue of abortion to individual state
     
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    Nope, even if not a billionaire, still applies.
     
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    Biden Screams, Calls His Political Enemies Dumb in Unhinged State of The Union Address.

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    Deeply weird and disturbing performance by a man desperately trying to not get dumped by a party catering to the most extreme.

    'congressional Republicans mostly sat idle as this dementia-ridden head of state rattled off a vision of America that doesn’t exist. The address started with a January 6 lecture, where everyone knew this would devolved into an hour of insanity.'

    'Biden embodied a ‘we know best’ attitude, telling struggling Americans whose wallets get torched when they pay the electric bill or go to the grocery store that their eyes are deceiving them. Joe wants to declare war on gun owners, touted Obamacare, which wasn’t his accomplishment, and outright lied about Republicans wanting to cut Social Security and Medicare—the AARP has pro-Trump ads on this, Joe. They’ve been running since 2016.'

    Frantically trying to consolidate his base rather than reaching across the middle.

    'It was an angry, partisan speech meant to dissuade any intraparty coup toward replacing Biden at the convention later this year. And it served red meat to the far left faction, which has been drifting away from Biden.'
     
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    TRump delivers lies with a fire hose, and you don't complain.

    Trump says the biggest lies ever delivered by a politician, some big ones:

    1. The press is the enemy of the people (this is dictator talk)
    2. (Before the first ballot was cast) "The only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election" (no evidence)

    You don't have a problem with the kinds of lies Trump tells, which are dictator quality.

    In fact, the astonishing thing is that you do not grasp the gravity of those lies.

    Biden gets facts wrong, which really isn't lying, and you gotta problem.

    And you think Biden's getting facts wrong is lying.

    Clearly you are not clear on what 'lying' is.
     
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    I'm not sure what you're going on about. Bribed Demented Joe made a desperate plea to his base with a "proof of life" speech and did not reach out beyond his base.

    Trump, on the other hand, has consolidated his base, has 10% of Biden voters switching to him, and is expanding his reach into and his support among groups that are supporting him in numbers, now, much more strongly than they have before.

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    Trump 'now has the highest poll rating among Hispanic and African-American voters of any Republican presidential candidate in modern times. Trump took just eight per cent of the black vote in 2020. But new polling suggests that 23 per cent of black voters in six of the key swing states – Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin – will vote for him in 2024, enough to have a significant impact on the election. His nationwide approval rating among Hispanics is even more startling. He is on 46 per cent compared with Biden on 40 per cent. This represents a 39-point swing in Trump’s favour over the past four years.'

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/03/07/dont-blame-disinformation-for-trumps-poll-bounce/

    We saw no reaching beyond his base from Bribed Joe and you don't even seem capable of recognizing its absence. I was five minutes into Bribed Joe's speech when it was clear to me that Bribed Joe was desperately trying to consolidate his base, rather than expand it.

    It was a shockingly angry, bitter, defensive, mean and unhinged speech.

    And his incoherence was next level. 'I'VE MADE SURE THE MOSH ADVANED AMERGUN TECHNOMY NOT AMAIL IN SHINA!'

    What the hell is he trying to say here?
     
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    Maybe not, but you haven't actually provided a counter argument.

    I don't give a f*ck about your emotional state.

    Zorro has no credibility given his incessant linking to ultra hard right trash rags.
     
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    You source hard right trash rags and link to photoshopped images.

    What, you can't tell? I worked as a photographer for decades and could spot it easily.

    No credibility, sorry.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...rs-highlight-concerns-around-ai-and-elections
     
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    'Despite winning 87% of the black vote in the 2020 election, recent polling from USA Today and Suffolk University shows that only 63% of black voters are supporting Biden in 2024. This trend is consistent with other polls highlighting a diminishing level of support for Biden among various minority groups that threatens his chances of winning in November.'

    "The data show the Democratic Party retaining advantages among people of color and young adults, but in 2023 it was in a weaker position among these groups than at any point in the past quarter century," Gallup noted last month. "Democrats’ reduced support among Black and Hispanic adults should be especially concerning for the party, given Republicans’ continued strength among White adults, who remain the majority of the electorate."

    'Why is this happening? Of course, a big part of it is that Americans from all backgrounds remember that things were a lot better during the Trump years and would like to return to that. But there’s another reason why Trump is appealing to black voters, according to former NBA star and current CNN host Charles Barkley.'

    “The reason I think the Democratic Party and Mr. Biden, President Biden, is losing black votes is they only care about black people every four years,” Barkley said.

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    Charles Barkley Explains Why Black Voters Are Ditching the Democrats

    You seem be as lost on how to reach out as Bribed Joe is.

    Bribed Joe: 'TO THE LEADERSHIM OF ISZZRL I SHAY DISH.'
     

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