Stop the Liberal nonsense

You evidently don't know it but you are a liberal. It is liberals that blame wall street and the banks for all the problems.
But the blame clearly belongs hung on politicians. Not just Democrats, but liberal and moderate Republicans as well.

When laws are passed that in effect toss Billions of dollars into the street. It is ridiculous to blame those who LEGALLY pick up those dollars. Had the general public known politicians were tossing billions at the feet of wall street and banks, the general public would also have picked up as much as they could too. In fact that WAS the housing bubble. The public trying to get in on the gravy train without knowing HOW. And the public got screwed, not by the banks and wall street [not that any angels reside there] but by the politicians that caused the whole problem in an effort to buy reelection votes for themselves and to hell with the future.

 

No, most so-called 'social' programs are created by politicians who wish to retain a voting block totally dependent upon government largesse. They were never meant to help the truly needy.

 

So very true and so very sad. For the nation and especially for the truly needy.

 

Yeah like those old people on Medicare living in poverty and the only source of income they receive is social security and food stamps. And those poor kids on Medicaid. It's all about the votes man!

 

People on Medicare Paid into Medicare for at a minimum of 10 years to qualify for Medicare. If they did not, they are on Medicaid. Also people on Medicare PAY a minimum of 96.40 PER MONTH EACH, this year depending on their income. If their income is higher, they are required to pay more per month than the minimum

People on Social Security ALSO paid into Social security for a minimum of 10 years and the amount of benefit they receive is based on the amounts they paid in. If they paid in for less than 10 years, or 40 quarters, they get no SS benefit. If they paid in a very small amount, they get a very small benefit. Those that paid in the maximum amounts, receive the maximum SS benefits in addition to the retirement programs they established on their own.
Had those people had the choice of paying into FICA taxes or establishing a private retirement program, most of us would have opted out of SS. Much better returns were and are available on the open markets.

So neither Medicare nor Social Security are giveaway programs. If you work, you pay FICA taxes and that qualifies you for SS and Medicare. If you don't work and don't pay FICA taxes, you receive nothing from Medicare or Social Security.

Medicaid and food stamps ARE giveaway programs. To qualify for either or both you must do NOTHING, pay nothing, contribute nothing, so YES they are vote buying schemes that destroy the integrity and ambition of those that receive the giveaways.

No matter how severe anyone's NEED is, it does not qualify them to a cent of what I earned.

 

Yeah but...you aren't going to stop getting Medicare or SS until you die, even if it exceeds what you contributed...If you retire at 65 and live to be 105, you get SS and Medicare, no matter what your medical bill costs, even if you worked at Wal-Mart in en entry level position all your life. You're right it's not the same as food stamps, but once you qualify, it won't ever be taken away (unless a politician takes it away from the elderly, but that is EXTREMELY unlikely).

 

Wow, us Socialists have done all that? Pretty amazing seeing how the Socialist party never has had a President elected and we only have one self described Socialist in the Senate (Bernie Sanders) who ran on a independent ticket. He is the first person elected to the U.S. Senate to identify as a socialist and before that, when he was in congress, he was the first U.S. Congressman to describe himself as a socialist in 60 years (since Victor Berger). He must of been very busy to keep all those programs afloat by himself.

 

What does your health insurance cost per month?

Medicare costs all the taxes you paid all your working life, PLUS, $100 per month Part B premium, Plus about $200 per month for a supplement. And that is per person. So a lifetime of taxes paid in, plus $3600 per person per year, pretty well compares with your health insurance doesn't it? And there is no family coverage discount. That's $7200 per year for a couple and we haven't got into Part D coverage and drug costs.

And the SS benefit DOES continue to death. As does my own retirement program benefits that pay much better than SS which is chump change. Anyone with discipline to invest all their lives would do better than SS.
SS taxes people for retirement and then uses the money for today's expenses, or uses it as a political football. Like the incompetent idiot obama is doing right now. The infamous obama "Payroll Tax" cuts ARE cuts in FICA taxes, 100%. So for political propaganda NOW, obama is taking money needed for the future of SS and Medicare. Not from food stamps, not from Medicaid. He's stealing from Medicare and Social Security to gain political standing today. obama, "Screw the country's future, screw that FICA taxes are supposed to be dedicated and people are paying for SPECIFIC programs, make me look good today!"

It is ALL, ONLY about politics. No liberal elected official gives a dam about the poor. Not making any claims that Republicans do either.

 

Apparently, you have a reading comprehension problem.

 

So, those are the two choices, "liberal" or "right wing NUT"? Interesting.