Study on antibodies proving Covid jab might kill us eventually.

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  1. Bowerbird

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    anti-vaxers find water is bad for you.... suggest drinking Kool-Aid instead
     
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    I agree with everything you said except for this. So far the vaccine has been confirmed to have killed three people. There are more that are under review but only 3 confirmed and thousands confirmed to not have been due to the virus.

    The bans that do seem to be coordinated in nature are not helping with these conspiracy theories either. It really give one a reason to question more so than confirm the ethics behind the vaccine.
     
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    Ludicrous statement. The volume of shots against deaths is tiny and none of the deaths has been proven to have been caused by the vaccine!

    And then you source an article from a blog that references another blog that quotes the useless English newspaper the Daily Express. So suddenly the whole crux of your argument relies on a mainstream outlet that needless to say is now the "truth"!
     
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    That’s interesting but what are the Europeans standards for reporting deaths of covid. And being I’m not from Europe I’m not sure how tell if this source is reputable.

    here in America we only have three confirmed and that’s it
     
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    Different sources say different things. I'm not in a position to know which ones reflect reality but I'd bet it's more than three.
    https://www.bing.com/search?q=death...-28&sk=&cvid=D4FCA7DDCDCC4C22AC0837F279D2DDFA

    https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/05/22/how-many-have-died-from-covid-vaccines/
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    • Between mid-December 2020 and April 23, 2021, at which point between 95 million and 100 million Americans had received their COVID-19 shots, there were 3,544 reported deaths following COVID vaccination, or about 30 per day
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    A lot of those deaths are reported to have happened within a few days of getting the vaccine. They say they're coincidences but that's a lot of coincidences.
     
  8. Scott

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    If you look at the info I posted, you'll see that those doctors say they cured people of covid. I wasn't there to see it happen but I'm not going to simply dismiss what they say. What do you think of what they say?

    Here's one.

    Calif. doctor successfully cures 1,700 COVID-19 patients
     
  9. Betamax101

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    So they said it and you believed it.

    Precisely.

    If they were mainstream that is exactly what you would do!

    Sounds promising - until you look at what he is doing! He is saying that he treated vast numbers of people and they all got better. Show me where he quantifies it, his test protocols for the patients etc. Show me how the hell he tested his incredibly crazy cocktail of daily drugs!

    His treatment protocol is absolutely absurd - he suggests two antibiotics to treat a VIRUS??? Ivermectin in any significant volume has noticeable side effects. As for HCF!
    Hydroxychloroquine: Side effects, dosage, COVID-19 (under study) (medicalnewstoday.com)

    Fareed/Tyson COVID-19 Treatment Protocol
    HCQ 200 mg tabs #16 (HCQ = hydroxychloroquine)
    Zinc sulfate 22O mg (or elemental Zinc 50 mg) # 15
    Azithromycin 500 mg # 5 (or Z pack) or
    Doxycycline 100 mg # 10)
    Ivermectin 3 mg tabs #8
    Aspirin 325 mg tabs #30

    Day 1 - HCQ 2 tabs twice a day
    Zinc sulfate tab twice a day
    (Azithromycin tab one per day or doxycycline cap twice a day)
    Ivermectin 12 mg on day 1 only
    Aspirin 325 mg

    Days 2-5
    HCQ tab 3 times a day
    Zinc sulfate 3 times a day
    (Azithromycin tab daily or doxycycline cap twice a day)
    Aspirin 325 mg daily
    Ivermectin 12 mg on day 3 if symptoms warrant
    Prednisone 60 mg daily x 5-7 days or
    Dexamethasone 4 mg bid if wheezing /SOB
    Budesonide 0.5-1mg/2ml vía nebulizer bid
    Vitamin D3 5000 iu daily
    Pepcid 20 mg daily
    Continue daily Aspirin 325 mg

    Over the counter prevention:
    Elemental Zinc 25 mg once a day
    Vitamin D 4000 iu once a day
    Vitamin C 1000 mg once a day
    Quercetin 500 mg once a day

    If Quercetin is unavailable, then use Epigallocatechin-gallate (EGCG) 400mg once a day
     
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    You know I'm not in a position to be able to do that.

    https://www.clubconspiracy.com/counter-intellegience-tricks-and-techniques-t4702.html
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    19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the "play dumb" rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon).
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    Do you think he's lying when he says he's cured people? I'm not in a position to be able to know whether he's lying but I'm not going to dismiss it. Are you dismissing it?

    There's a lot of positive info on hydroxychloroquine. I think it's probable that he's telling the truth but I'm not going to say I'm one hundred percent sure.

    https://www.jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf
     
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    It is damn well fundamental to their claim and I am not asking you to produce it - I am pointing out that they have not! Ignoring your idiotic spam "counter intelligence" horseshit. It isn't counter intelligence if you aren't actually posting anything intelligent!.

    I am dismissing it because he is making a bare assertion and his ludicrous cocktail of drugs is actually the most insane thing I have seen from a physician in some time.

    But far more negative. Side effects!

    You aren't qualified to assess that. You completely ignored his cocktail of drugs list. Do you think it reasonable?

    Nor will you ever be about anything. Get educated and you may be in a position to post informed opinion.
     
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    Then they also need to inform about the possibility of ADE.
     
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    That's not the scientific method. You're not in a position to know whether he's telling the truth or not. Your way of thinking can lead you to an erroneous conclusion. You rant some pretty lame things. Ranting something doesn't make it any more true.
     
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    Scott, Scott Scott Scott………

    When will you learn that anecdotal evidence is useless and will NOT be taken seriously by the medical profession. There is a standard it is called a systematic review - that is the level of evidence the medical profession should operate on and indeed they can be de registered or at the least sued if they do not
     
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    Highly probable
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08...-give-rise-to-a-new-variant-covid19/100343554

    Half way down the page there is a video called “a cure for Covid” - watch it it will explain a lot of what is confusing you
     
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    Listen up joker. We have already established that YOU are not using ANY method, let alone a scientific one. It is exactly the way to formulate an opinion based on the most reliable and verified evidence.

    I don't need to be, but you most certainly are not either. What is telling is that you completely ignored my question concerning his ludicrous drugs cocktail.

    Do you think it a reasonable list?

    It is HIS burden to prove his claim, yet he offers nothing to do so. What he does offer is his crazy cocktail list!

    Meh, coming from the person who routinely sucks up batshit and completely ignores ALL mainstream.

    You are not qualified to make any assessment of what you read, spam or respond to.

    Luckily I have no need to do this. Spamming it like crazy and acting dumb about proper evidence doesn't either.
     
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    How am I supposed to know? I've got no medical background. Do you have some kind of medical background?

    If he's really curing people, the fact that a layman doesn't like his list of medicine means nothing. There's a lot of stuff written by other doctors that's consistent with his really curing people.
    https://www.jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf

    Knee-jerk dismissal is not the scientific method.
     
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    There you go with your naive willingness to believe mainstream info. Of course it shouldn't be ruled out but, considering the record of the mainstream*, it should be assumed to be a lie until it's proven true. The American mainstream media are the worst place to get info.


    *
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798


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    Sorry. I thought that was Betamax's post. I think the same about you though.
     
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    There you go with your moronic disregard for evidence.

    You're not educated enough to even understand any of it, let alone rule anything out.

    A quite insane contention.

    No, the worst places are all the batshit websites you frequent.

    Nobody cares what you think. You are a major part of the problem.
     
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    Research each drug using medical sources.

    you don't have any relevant background in any subject you pollute.

    I have a strong background in research and a working understanding of basic medicine.

    Did you not damn well read his list!! It contains two strong antibiotics that are used to treat bacterial infections not viruses! It is a ridiculous and cranky cocktail with ZERO testing, way worse than any vaccine testing.

    Bullshit. Show how any of it is quantified, records that are accurate, treatment regimes and testing.

    His method was dismissed from his a) lack of testing b) lack of reporting c) no specifics d) a ludicrous cocktail of drugs with known side effects, some of which are being used in ways that could cause damage to the immune system. And yet again like a clown, you quote me the "scientific method".

    You have been asked about half a dozen times. Show how YOU use the scientific method and show how any of your sources use it.

    Of course you won't, because you are the opposite to any such methodology!
     
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    I don't just conclude what I want to be true. I just look where the evidence leads. Sometimes I can only form a hypothesis and can't conclude anything.
     
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    Meh! You do that very thing in every case and defend it no matter what. You make no attempt to verify it, seek valid sources of credibility or even scant attempts to DISPROVE a single thing you post. THAT is what science does. THAT is what you do NOT do.

    A lie. You only post something if it agrees with your preconceived views. Confirmation bias at its worst.

    None of that uses the scientific method. Nowhere do you offer anything that seeks to disprove your "hypothesis"! Even when you only watch a few minutes of one of your stupid videos, you will defend it no matter what.
     
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    Do you even read your crap? The title is nothing whatsoever to do with the local medical board guidance! There are a whole load of completely false statements and conclusions that are nothing to do with what was stated by the FSMB.

    "On July 29, 2021, the Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB) warned all healthcare professionals that they could lose their medical license if they create or spread so-called “COVID-19 vaccine misinformation.

    "The FSMB asserts: “Due to their specialized knowledge and training, licensed physicians possess a high degree of public trust and therefore have a powerful platform in society, whether they recognize it or not.”

    “They also have an ethical and professional responsibility to practice medicine in the best interests of their patients and must share information that is factual, scientifically grounded and consensus-driven for the betterment of public health.”"
     
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    The doctors who say what they see going on are committing career suicide. The ones who don't probably have trouble sleeping at night. Here are some of the brave ones.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-4#post-1072838478
     

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