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No, you and your cohorts state the percentage of the male population who acquired HIV from gay sex.
I state the percentage of the total (male and female) population that acquired HIV from intimate contact with gay or bi men.

In 2013, 60.8% of MEN who acquired HIV acquired it through gay sex.

In 2013, 93% of ALL PEOPLE who acquired HIV acquired it through contact with gay or bi men.

Nobody has proven the 93% number false. All you have done in your (and your cohorts) posts is whine "you're wrong" and/or state the wrong statistic.

HIV is transmitted through the gay community, its a gay disease.

 

It is outright lie, there is no confirmed cases that man acquired HIV from woman.
You have to understand biology, HIV is very weak virus, it dies right away.
In order to get it from woman male should have an open wound.

 

Wellit's about HIV inAfrica as well.That is the origin.And it's largely heterosexual.You don't like that fact because it undermines your justification.

Neither does sexual orientation.

Most ofthem do that it's why the majorityof them are not infected.

It certainly isn't due to them being gay asmost gay and bi men are not infected. Perhaps it is lack of education.

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Yes...

 

And she then becomes a homosexual male? I was uunaware HIV could do that.

 

Nope, its not about HIV in Africa. The transmission methods in Africa vary from region to region, and are largely a factor of culture. For example, in Northern Africa, HIV rates a low because those areas have a high Muslim population, and we all know how Islam treats gays - getting the death penalty for engaging in homosexual sex is a strong disincentive to gay sex, which translates to a lower incidence of gay diseases such as HIV/AIDS.

LOL, that's funny. In 2013, 61% of men who get HIV get it from gay sex, 93% of all people who get HIV got it from contact with gay or bi men, and you say its not about sexual orientation LOL Give it up, now you contradict your own posts

 

Lol

No would necessary.

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And heterosexual males. Just like men are infected from heterosexual females.

 

In Africait's mostly aheterosexual population affected.

Correlation isn't causation.

 

Iam tempted to ask if transmissions occur by a bite onthe neck orthe full moon.
It's like talking to kindergarteners.

 

That last ditch claim again? Correlation does not necessarily mean causation, but causation requires correlation. And very high correlation, as in 93%, pretty much means causative relationship.

 

Correlation inthis case isn't causation unless you can prove homosexuality causes aids.
I'm sorry the things you have posted this fardon't prove that.

 

Homosexuality does not cause HIV/AIDS, and its foolish to suggest such an idea, but I understand you are trying to change the subject.

Irresponsible gay men are the overwhelming transmission avenue for HIV.

 

Than homosexuality isn't a causeation.

I agree 100%. Irresponsibility isthe number one cause. Since most gay men are responsible it isn't a gay issue, it's a responsibility issue.

 

Most gay men might be responsible, but 93% of new HIV infections are due to irresponsible gay and bi men. Not heterosexual men, not women, but gay and bi men. That's why its not a problem of irresponsibility, or of men, but of gay men.

 

Every time you post the false claim that 93% of new HIV infections are due to gay and bi-men it really is you just screaming louder that 1.) you hate homosexuals and 2. that your constantly thinking about homosexual sex isn't because you're not homosexual yourself.

HIV is a male disease. If women would avoid sex with men and instead have sex with and marry each other HIV would virtually vanish within two generations.

 

It is a problem of irresponsibility. Homosexuality is simply a correlation not a causation, as you stated to me in posts 586

So you are arguing against yourself.

 

She is arguing with herself. Seethe post you responded too and this one

She says it's caused by being gay than she says it's not.

Seems a bit of a schizophrenic argument to me.

 

LOL you just refuted yourself in this thread. You claim it is a "gay disease" but then admit that homosexuality does not cause HIV/AIDS. Thank you for refuting your argument that HIV/AIDS is a gay disease.

Since most homosexuals DO NOT have HIV/AIDS and most homosexuals ARE responsible, it is not a gay disease. Irresponsible sex is the issue, not someone being gay.

 

Unwanted childbirth is a far greater problem than AIDS and that is caused by irresponsibilty. Let's face it, when we get horny, intelligent thought is seldom on the top of out to-do list, regardles of whether we are climbing the bones of a him or a her.

 

Present the entire post, not just one bit out of context. Irresponsible gay men are the overwhelming transmission avenue for HIV. Not heterosexual men, not women, but gay men. If gay and bi men did not transmit HIV, there would not be an HIV/AIDS problem in the USA. Its a gay disease.

 

FACT: The majority of gays are not infected with AIDS and DO practice safe sex.
FACT: The majority of HIV/AIDS are done because of irresponsible promiscuity.
FACT: Being a homosexual, by that fact alone, does not make one get HIV/AIDS.

You cannot ignore those facts and those facts PROVE it is NOT a gay disease. It is cause by irresponsible promiscuity and that can happen by ANYONE. Your concession is noted and the Battle has lost.

 

But you left out the biggest and most important fact: Almost all new cases of HIV (93% in 2013) were due to contact with gay or bi men.

Not irresponsible promiscuity by women. Not irresponsible promiscuity by heterosexual men. In fact, not even by women and heterosexual men in general. Only by gay and bi men. That makes it unequivocally a gay disease.

 

Yet again, it is the irresponsible sex part that is the KEY thing there. Tell me is a homosexual that is not engaging in sex going to get HIV/AIDS? Not likely. So no it isn't a gay disease, it is irresponsible promiscuity that is the problem. Typical gay haters do not like those facts.

 

Actually, irresponsible promiscuity has 40 times the risk of contracting HIV if you are a man engaging in sex with men, than it does if you are engaging in irresponsible promiscuity with women.

 

They just don't learn...Indeed, that are not capable of learning that the country is changed and that they must be more inclusive:

 

It still is irresponsible promiscuity that is the issue. If you don't engage in irresponsible promiscuity you are many more times likely NOT to contract HIV/AIDS whether you are homosexual or not. Imaging that!