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Due to the fact you provided nothing of any recognition of the sort, only stands to reason.

But do you also deny that you attempting to use that mainstream media to support your claims? You know that media you don't like because they are all corrupt lying Murdoch monopolies??? LOL... again your hypocrisy is showing...LOL

 

It doesn't read: Quotes and links should be provided to support a members opinion.(full stop) there is a ,(this is a comma). Nice attempt to take the statement out of context. It is a clear indication of how you like to be tricky! I gave credit to the source.....do you want to debate the flavour of the source! I mean I do prefer tomato source over BBQ source!

 

LOL... no it states "ALL quotes from other sources MUST be given appropriate credit, preferably with a link to the original article" Of which you did not do. Against the forum rules. You simply state that this poll is.... No link no source to original article. In fact it turns out it is sourced by you from the mainstream media, you claim is so corrupted by Murdoch that it should be discarded... LOL.

You know that media you hate, but hypocrisy is evident when you proclaim it to be a true representation, from a credible source when you are claiming that the sources are corrupt... LOL Much like the ALP, corruption running rampant. I am guessing I would be insulting you by calling you a fool, so I will say that your hypocrisy is a foolish thing to do when you are rampantly attempting to discredit the media... LOL

 

"Preferably", not essential as you would like to make out or want it to read. I provided, therefore gave credit to the source. Keep digging Garry!

 

You provided nothing as is simply demonstrated by

That is not in your original post... fact is that you did not even give credit to the people who produced the poll, you simply stated it was by…. Who did not produce the poll. You actually state the people who actually only created a report using the poll. Fact is, you clearly have demonstrated you do not know or understand what APPROPRIATE CREDIT is.

So you actually have simply used others hard work, regardless credibility to play your stupid games. So far nothing of real debate, simply consistent attempt to insult, when caught, pretend the nice person.

Do you actually think you can climb out of the hole you have dug? Do you think sometime you might get something a little more substantial to support your claims?... Although that would be extremely easy.

It is essential to reference all information you use of others, it is actually the law in Australia otherwise you are simply plagiarising.

 

Go back and read OP! They are referenced...sorry bud, never plagiarised! ! You've got yourself into a pedantic game and I happen to be willing to play and expose the bulls!t that is always forth coming with empty and anal responses!

 

LOL , perhaps you should go back... as stated people are asking for the reference, it is simply not there.

As stated, if you do not give appropriate credit(which you did not), then yes are plagiarising.

So far the only BS being exposed is yours... So far you have refuted nothing, not even the fact of your fabrications of the OP... LOL Pedantic? You are the one, who wants to proclaim the POLL as legitimate, yet you could not reference it, you could not refute the fabrication and your response only demonstrates you do not even know who produced it.

You got caught assuming something of the poll, when demonstrated to be incorrect you have fought tooth and nail to uphold the credibility of the poll without refuting anything.

Fact is that this poll you pulled from the mainstream media you pretend to condemn as corrupt making anything they say unreliable (in your opinion, because that is all you have) but then a POLL pulled from that very same media is credible because you thought it agreed with you... Hypocrisy? Darn right it is.

So what is it, that media corruption? OR because it suites your agenda,,, ?... LOL

Oh what a tangle web you weave when you cannot think past today.

 

Nope, not at all, you see the very difference is, it wasn't given much airway at all and the reason you and many others didnt see it. Now this is the tricky game!

Again, yes I made reference to the source in my OP, and as you could see, it was my intention to convince everybody it was my creation and resources that gathered the appropriate data to present a highly biased poll in favour of the ALP!

 

Oh, so you decided that you did not need to reference your OP because it was not given much airway...LOL What a joke

No you never said your source was the news media... That came much later as you squirmed to find some credibility to your claims.

Fact that you proclaim the source of the poll is somebody entirely different, and then did not even take the time to see it was created by a body completely different from your supposed label. Does not matter if you intended to convince anybody of you intentions here, clearly if you go to the actual poll source you will see your own fabrication of the report generated from the poll. BUT you cannot see that you have it wrong. You cannot even refute the claim that you got it wrong. So again we get nothing but your rhetoric.


Again, you really do not understand what giving appropriate credit actually means do you? In fact I really do not think you understand what the proper procedure is for acknowledging those that produce material you use and simply expect it to be OK for you to splash about. Fact is you have misrepresented both the POLL and the Creators of the poll by fabricating results.

So you have actually broken the law, by

A) Not referencing the correct party and

B) Proclaiming a result that is not actually stated.

LOL... Hypocrisy?? darn right it is.

 

You are really doing your best to discredit it, the desperation is laughable and very noticeable.

The poll was sourced and provides a clear indication of the perplexing political landscape, influenced by Murdoch.

 

LOL... already discredited, also by you... when you blame the same media you retrieved this poll as corrupt... LOL

LOL... There you go again, as stated if you consider that 0.00436% of the populations is speaking for the entire population, you really are a nutjob.

But to then, blame the media, that very same media you extracted this poll from, as corrupt and incredulous but claim that poll is reliable... LOL talk about belly laughs..

So when the media says what you like it is fine, upstanding and a reasonable source of informations. BUT if it says something you don't like, it is all the corruption of the media?... Hypocrisy, Darn right it is.

Blame the media for the ALP stuff ups, Blame Rudd for the stuff ups, blame the population for not liking the ALP, But never accept any responsibility for your own actions, it is always somebody else's fault... LOL


What a joke...

 

Personal insults, that is all you have Garry!

The point in question went over your head! The mainstream media didnt push the poll, but if it was in the negative they would jump on it like flies to sh!t and smeared it over all their newspapers! Ya feelin me now!

 

LOL so you did not get this from the mainstream media, YOU proclaimed you did? You know the boobtube? LOL

So apparently it is only the papers you consider to be mainstream media... LOL

Again what a joke. Hypocrisy? Darn right it is.

 

Missed it again, but I will continue! Yes it was presented on either foxtel or free to air commercial channels! Again, "No" the mainstream media weren't all over it like flies to sh!t because it was positive for the government, and it is quite obvious they don't want positive! Ya feelin me!

 

LOL... Hypocrisy, darn right I am feeling you.

So the BOOBTUBE is not mainstream media... and not only that, YOU present something you cannot even reference where you watched it on and proclaim it as credible... LOL what else can one say?

You have clearly demonstrated that in your opinion (which is stated as your facts) that this mainstream media (which the BOOBTUBE is a part of) cannot be trusted so your sources are untrustworthy, BUT because it suites your agenda... that is different..... LOL

 

Still missing the point! The mainstream media weren't over it like flies to sh!t and wasn't splashed all over the front pages like negatives are!

Again you pedantically get into irrelevant detail to miss the whole context of what is being raised......ya feelin me now

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Still missing the point! The mainstream media weren't over it like flies to sh!t and wasn't splashed all over the front pages like negatives are!

Again you pedantically get into irrelevant detail to miss the whole context of what is being raised......ya feelin me now

 

Yes definitely hypocrisy.... It appears it is you who miss the point. You would like to narrow everybody's focus to one set of media, YOU believe is against the ALP. So you are attempting censorship through deception when you proclaim something is ok from the very same media you proclaim is corrupt. That is hypocrisy at its most blatant.

Apparently, you consider yourself well informed by many media areas, BUT you really do not know what mainstream media is. You want to categorise certain parts of that mainstream media into what supports YOUR agenda and what does not. Unfortunately, you only more clearly demonstrate the hypocrisy of the ALP blame game... LOL

LOL... apparently you feel that your agenda driven droning will win the day for you. The entire context of what you raise is misleading at the least but more deceptive. You have attempted to blame the Mainstream media where you get all your information for the failures of the ALP and then turn around declaring that only Murdoch is the mainstream media... LOL

Darn right I am feeling ya... Hypocrisy at its peak... LOL

 

Still missing the point! The mainstream media weren't over it like flies to sh!t and wasn't splashed all over the front pages like negatives are!

Ya never give up on the strawmans argument, you simply persist!

 

Every time you post this, you demonstrate that hypocrisy... So apparently it is you who misses the point... LOL

Look in the mirror bud, it is you who attempts a logical fallacy then attempt to support the claim with the strawman argument. But when your claims and fabrications do not go the way you think it should, attempt insult... LOL.

 

Pleaseeeee, your whole argument is based around this type of argument. I mean, you just have to look at your very first response and every response after that! You attempt to focus on meaningless little points all the time! Is a teeny bit silly gazza, but I am happy to play your little game!

 

Yes look at it. Perhaps if you could answer the questions instead of pretending you’re the consummate expert whose professional opinion was questioned by your minion, there could have been debate. The only problem is that your credibility and ability does not match the opinion you have of yourself. SO mostly attempted insults come from you.

Simply replied in like to your style. If you don't like it don't throw it... LOL

Obviously you are not willing to play any game but your own. All you seem to do is complain about everybody else... LOL sounds a little like your ALP saints...LOL

Fact is, You decided to pursue a course of debate that produces nothing, demonstrates hypocrisy and simply makes you feel it is alright to insult everybody. I was wondering when you would actually try refuting anything I have said, but no, all you can do is complain and attempt insults.

However, let us be fair. The reason I am the only one really answering your stupidity is because others are really sick of your style and complaints. You produce nothing of any substance and simply expect you opinion should be accepted as fact, But you demand everybody else produce evidence of their claims. When you are pushed you come out with the old attempt at insults. Even when brought to your attention, you try subterfuge to defend your own insult to intelligence.

Really, if you want a debate, start debating with substance. Otherwise you are simply a fool (yes an insult) who demonstrates his own inadequacies in the real world(not insult just real pity for the obvious situation you must think you find yourself in).

But your current course is straight out hypocrisy and should anybody actually be that stupid as to believe what you post from thread to thread, then I can only assume they are about maybe 10 or 12 years of age. The stupid thing is, you seem oblivious that your words are being read by many around the world and tainting the Australian people (especially the ALP nut) as complete wack jobs, Who has no idea of how incapable their government is or how to measure the success of that government . It actually makes your ALP look far worse than it is...

But I know you cannot see that. So I expect some frivolous retort or complaint as has been demonstrated from the very first post.

 

It is supremely obvious that nobody came to your rescue gazza, now this is why you are desperately trying your best with ad homs! I think you are a little taken aback that I had decided to play the silly little games and nobody jumped in to back you up! People get a little bit lost in your line of thinking and your frivolous commentary! I'm sure you are a good fella but you do tend to lose people time and time again in your pedanticism. People want to discuss the broader issues.

I fight fire with fire, it is no different to how culldav, AM, maggo present their arguments, it's just I'm from the opposing view, so keep bringing it bud rather than complaining, if you are up to it!

 

As expected, some frivolous retort from your oh so witty book of wisdom. As pointed out, you set the course of the debate and you continue to pretend the victim. I hold no illusion on what you are about and have expressed such. You however pretend to be something you are not...

As I bore of your stupidity I will bid you leave. You can claim victory (as you will attempt and pretend to have the high road) whatever you like. I will simply watch you flounder around in the side with your handlers, trying your best to make some inroads to something you consider to be… actually, I don’t know what you want to make inroads in and basically I do not care.

Complain all you like, squirm all you like, pretend what you like… I bore of you and will ignore you and your attempt at insults.

Should you want real debate produce something of substance, But I know and you know that will never happen, so I bid you happy times.

 

This as I suspected was a silly little attempt to win a debate with pedantic off track frivolity! Now, I started a thread regarding a poll and added my opinion but you simply wanted to argue side issues to simply side track the real issue of the poll results. You raised issues of the polls methodology but only on the basis of how many people were polled! It is simply rediculous, to suggest the poll is completely wrong on this basis, when all polls are based on a small percentage. Poll results are debated all the time but not the percentage surveyed and this is how shallow your debate was. You wanted to argue that 457 visas was Howard's policy but again this was not the debate!! Just on that labor were obviously changing the rules on 457 visas therefor the kerfuffle it had caused, but again, just a pedantic part of the overall debate.

I'm happy to call you on this frivolity, but I would and many others would be happy if you stopped losing the actual debate in you pedanticism! Capiche? Your resignation is accepted!

 

As stated, you bore me. You have nothing and will produce nothing. Fact is, I consider you to be the least valued asset of the PF society. You address nothing and simply attempt insult. I would have been delighted to accept the honour you bestow upon me with your insults, but I realise that insults from inconsequential and incredulous people are worthless.

One thing though, I do find it funny you simply attempt to use my phrases to bolster your own debate, demonstrating further that drone quality.

I see you could not simply claim victory, you demonstrated your own hypocrisy and lies with your victory claim. But anyhow, I have resigned from your oh so witty repertoire, So throw you last insult, pretend you last intelligent retort, I will not respond again to your punitive attempt of demonstration of ALP fanaticism.