Supreme Court overturns Trump-era ban on gun bump stocks

Bump stocks are nothing more than an accessory designed for the purpose of circumventing a license requirement for owning fully automatic firearms that has been in place since the Reagan administration. The reasoning for requiring a license for these weapons is quite simple, fully automatic rifles were not designed for civilian purposes. They are highly inaccurate, and impractical for self defense purposes, but were instead designed for the purpose of firing into large crowds/armies of people, where accuracy is not important. They are very much so, military purpose weapons, similar to how hand grenades and RPGs are military purpose weapons

 

Go for it. I won't object.

 

Lol, most people that buy the bump stock never master the technic.. As I have said several times the technic can be done without it and as others have linked a rubber band can achieve the same effects and is far more reliable and accurate..

The bump stock is just a chew toy/distraction for folks without a clue what they are complaining about

 

Which supports my previous post about idiots rushing out to buy some just because they heard that they were going to be banned

 

Oh hell ya they do Then after they get it they find out they haven't the coordination to fix the addon to the weapon let alone master the technic..

Retail loves a sucker

 

Somehow you thought this was a good talking point to support the follow up statement about the possibility of people using rapid fire without the accessory. As noted by... yourself.... most people who would use the bump stock would not be able to master the technique for rapid fire.. and that's not even getting into the fact that said technique involves a less effective grip

The idea that an accessory should be legally sold without a license because people are capable of crafting their own version of the accessory is an impractical argument. That's like saying hand grenades should be openly sold to civilians because people are capable of crafting their own explosives. I'm also not sure what you're going on about in claiming that a rubber band is more reliable and accurate than a bump stock. That is completely nonsensical, because it still involves compromising your grip to achieve a rapid fire by loosening your trigger hand so you can keep your finger stationary relative to the recoil of the rifle, while simultaneously not using the butt of the gun for support, or loosening your support at the shoulder to allow necessary recoil movement

In what reality is firing with less support more reliable and accurate? You're just making things up now




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In this case the only real accessory is the finger, "users choice". The addon is just a marketing scam and something for the anti folks to focus on..

Have fun focusing on it not many gun owners are, they have moved on to far more reliable and accurate devices created after the crappy bumpstock was banned..

The bump stock will hardly sale today..

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NAzzg_mT0bw?feature=share

Note the control compared to a bump stock..

 

It's a bit more than just using your finger, anyone can look at the grip used for bump firing without an accessory, vs firing with a bump stock and see that. It's a night and day difference

Now we're talking about burst firing instead of a fully automatic fire rate. Burst fire is more practical for focused individual targets, but fully automatic weapons are better for firing into large crowds of people. That's what those weapons were designed for, they are not defensive weapons, they are offensive. There's no practical civilian use for it

 

Your wrong, I can perform the same manipulation without the addon, many others also have mastered it, See YouTube"..

The rate of fire with or without is identical once the rhythm is mastered.. And again, the rubber band hack is IMO far more accurate and more reliable for the simple fact you need pay far less attention to finger positioning..

Clearly you are at a disadvantage in this debate, I'm willing to bet you have not experimented with the maneuver with and without the addon..



BTW, a weapon was always designed as Offensive and Defensive..

 

You just posted a video depicting exactly what I was describing, look at how he is holding the weapon with the bump sock vs how he holds the weapon without the bump stock. He's loosening his grip with his trigger hand so his finger can be stationary relative to the recoil, and in this instance he's outright not using the butt of the rifle for support at all to allow more recoil movement (although some people achieve this by loosening their support at the shoulder). It's a night and day difference, because normally you would hold the weapon in a manner to reduce recoil.. and you yourself said that most people who use the bump stock could not master this technique......

Once again...

"more reliable and accurate"

 

Clearly you have never shot a bump stock, free hand or a full auto.. But damned if you ain't watched some commando movies..

https://www.military.com/kitup/2011/12/full-auto-battlefield-necessity.html?amp=

How many rounds can you carry

 

You literally just posted a video depicting exactly what I was describing, and said yourself that most people who use a bump stock would not be able to master the technique. Now you're posting a link mentioning special operators agreeing on the unreliability of fully automatic rate of fire for focused targets, after I've literally been saying multiple times now that the inaccuracy of fully auto rate is only good for shooting into large crowds/armies of people, which is what they were designed for. At this point I feel I like I don't even need to make any counter arguments, I can just use your posts to support what I've already said

They are highly inaccurate, and impractical for self defense purposes, but were instead designed for the purpose of firing into large crowds/armies of people

That is completely nonsensical, because it still involves compromising your grip to achieve a rapid fire by loosening your trigger hand so you can keep your finger stationary relative to the recoil of the rifle, while simultaneously not using the butt of the gun for support, or loosening your support at the shoulder to allow necessary recoil movement

Bump stocks are nothing more than an accessory designed for the purpose of circumventing a license requirement for owning fully automatic firearms that has been in place since the Reagan administration.

 

Yup