Surrendering Control of Wombs to Politicians is a very bad idea.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Natty Bumpo, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No .. that's not how it goes .. there would be unpleasant consequences for such actions .. and while .. according to the Irish Delegation to the UN .. "The Hague too good for Bibi" already .. .. he might actually make it there were he to go into full on Nazi Extermination mode. .

    Need to be able to reason some of these things out gary -- think a little bit about the whys and wherefores :)

    The cleansing of the Land has been going on for 70 years as per the Zionist Charter "from the river to the sea" --- which is hilariously now being called "anti semetic" by the propaganda pundits in an Orwellian doublespeak frenzy
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's what the Boss wants to do to daughter .. should she wish to keep her Job .. because put out or the door is not force or coercion .. according to the True Blue Cancel Crew .. she can just go find a Job somewhere else right Natty ..


    Yup ... that would be the Boss who wants put his pecker in that womb .. forcing the poor girl to choose between sex or Job.

    Oh .. but that's not force or compulsion right Natty .. isn't that what you said.
     
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    I can agree as long as we make exceptions for those rare, deadly birth defects that often can't be detected until week 22 or later, or the rare conditions in which the mother's life is at risk during delivery and it's a choice between the baby or the mother.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Your fanaticism that would devolve the United States into a repressive Nicaragua or El Salvador is opposed by most decent, freedom-loving Americans who loathe the prospect of politicians either proscribing or prescribing pregnancies.

     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Please keep your fantasies to yourself.

    Freedom-loving Americans are not interested in your lurid self-indulgences.
     
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    Oh lord, What nonsense you can't exterminate population buy killing a couple of thousand every few years. And the consequences would be all but nil limited some strongly worded letters from various world leaders signaling a virtue to which the only at best pretend. And Jordan and Egypt would at least privately either chuckle gleefully or breathe a sigh of relief at no longer having to pretend that they give a damn about the Gazans that neither will let into their own countries because of the Gazans past activities.
     
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    Shutcie Newly Registered Donor

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    Ah. When all else fails attack sources. Since when is it my job to do your research? A simple search brings up the legacy of a 17 year old who decided at the end of her pregnancy to get an abortion and found out the state would not allow her to murder her healthy 27 week child. So she enlists the aid of her mom and boyfriend and between them they get the job done.
    Horrifically.

    Your lazy attempt to defend her with some diversion on "prenatal depression" when it isn't even a factor in the case is dismissed. In no way does it justify having your boyfriend toss your freshly aborted (and possibly still alive) baby on a bonfire. To say nothing of the boyfriend's actions.

    The point was, this 17 year old levi obsessed woman became the poster child for the pro choice crowd until the rest of the story came out.

    And using such tactics only increases suspicion and widens the divide.
     
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    Seriously? Then why is there a movement to make the abortion issue national?
     
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    Of which 1/3 of the states who are banning abortion are run by people who do not understand the medical horrors & tragedies that they are about to inflict and have inflicted by banning abortion, including the statistical reality that banning abortion results in more women dying than before the ban.

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/abortion-restrictions-health-implications/

    No one who is against abortion can claim they are 'pro life'.

    Quite the opposite.

    This is what Trump has inflicted on America, by relying on the Federalist Society to choose his Supreme Court nominations.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Genocide Joe? You realize you are implying that Joe Biden has committed genocide, a serious accusation. Feel free to substantiate your position.

    Also, add to it substantiation that Biden is a 'neocon'. I would have thought, once upon a time, a neoliberal, but since Obama, no and evidence of that fact are his recent liberal policies and actions, but never a neocon. Neocons are warmongers, right?
     
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    Like I said; the Dobbs decision ignited the Abortion issue.
    In fact the Dobbs decision at heart was a decision defining states rights VS Federal rights.
    Yes, we know, abortion was the whole thing in the Dobbs decision.
    But the other issue was states rights, and it isn't even being discussed.
     
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    See, this is why we can't have an adult conversation.
    States that are banning abortion are not "run by people who do not understand the medical horrors & tragedies they are about to inflict and have inflicted by banning abortion".

    How about for once you acknowledge that people opposed to abortion are concerned about the life of the unborn, respect their position, and go from that perspective?
     
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    Nice dodge, but doesn't answer my question; why do the righties want to make a national abortion ban?
     
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    The problem is that their concern stops there.
     
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    Trump rightfully removed wombs from the federal government, USSC and gave them back to the voters where they belong.
     
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    Who said you could ? .. once again .. what part of . You can't do it full on Nazi Style .. is not sinking in ? ..and for Ethnic Cleansing .. you don't have to exterminate all of them .. as Bibi would like to do but is restrained for reasons obvious to any with common sense .. herding them into a concentration camps is another method of Ethnic Cleansing .. slowly removing the indigenous population from the land.. There have been times of quicker removal .. such as the famous Nakba ..of which of course you are familiar .. but seem to be selectively forgetting.
     
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    Fear mongering. The morally charged abortion issue rightfully belongs to the voters. No congress will ever have enough votes to ban abortion but you lefties will use that to scare people. Why do you lefties think the federal government should decide what happens to a woman's womb?
     
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    These are your fantasies .. not mine .. I am not the one who thinks lose Job or shag the Boss is not force or coercion .. because she can just go find another Job. My fantasy is to respect "my body my choice" - essential liberty.. and not the brown shirt society of your fantasies .

    And so .. in the words of Natty Bumpo .. please keep your fantasies to yourself .. and especially do not be projecting your lurid brown shirt self indulgences onto me friend.
     
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    So that is the lefty science explanation? Human life begins at conception unless you think a man and a woman can make a dog?
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Well, you'll have to ask the "righties".
    First I've heard of such a thing.
     
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    I don't answer for everyone.
    For my part I believe pro abortion folks don't care about the unborn OR the mothers.
    For them its all about winning.
     
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    You would be wrong. Underpinning the main push back on abortion is concern for the young women it impacts nd if you look at my posts as an example over and over and over again I hammer maternal AND infant mortality. Banning abortion impacts infant welfare as it impacts birth spacing
     
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    Or does it start at implantation? Viability? The line does not run two ways.
     
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    Why should anyone outside of a woman and her medical officer have any input?
     

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