Surrendering Control of Wombs to Politicians is a very bad idea.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Natty Bumpo, Apr 19, 2024.

  1. Cybred

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    Well considering there's no such thing as pro-abortion you don't know what your talking about.
     
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    That is absurd, I'd call it a conspiracy theory, but it doesn't hold enough water to be a decent conspiracy theory.
     
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    Baloney. Pro choice is a dodge because you can't sell prodeath.
     
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  4. Cybred

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    Sorry but pro-choice is exactly that, the only person who should make that choice is the pregnant woman, unfortunately you see pregnant women as merely biological incubators with no free will.
     
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    What is this raging strawman fallacy .. I am not for violation of essential liberty . not for abortion bans .. not for violating "My Body My Choice" . devolving of the US into an Orwellian Police State. That is your deal.. don't be tarring me with that stank brush. You are the one who wishes to violate "my body my choice" . forced medical treatment -- concurrent with brown shirt propaganda .. no respect for essential liberty .. Gov't and corporate overlords --- full control over the lives . and bodies of employees .. forced sexual favors on threat of Job loss. . and anything else the boss can come up with .. no such thing as worker rights in this happy collectivist dystopia .. I would call it the woke joke but is not the slightest bit funny.. this Law on the basis of Fallacious Utilitarianism ..
     
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    "The morally charged abortion issue rightfully belongs to" pregnant women. Period.

    Why do you righties think that any government should decide that?
     
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    And if you think I'd try to answer for everyone you disagree with you're clueless. I also don't play word games used to divert from the original point.
     
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  8. Cybred

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    No word games, there are no people that think that a pregnant woman should always have an abortion.
     
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    Word games.
    You know what I was referring to.
     
  10. Cybred

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    People that don't exist.
     
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    No we don’t actually please define what is meant by “pro- abortion”
     
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    Ironic coming from the side that demands people respect other peoples made up pronouns and want people to believe that a man can become a woman and visa versa with just plastic surgery and hormones.
     
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    We will never agree on this issue. When baby killers intentionally deny the science behind a pregnancy they will use illogical arguments. For lefties it's more about politics. Human life starts at conception with a man and a woman. Period. Not all pregnant women choose abortion as a first line of birth control. The government should not be involved in this moral issue. Both men and women are affected by abortions.
     
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    Because abortions have been unregulated for too long and the pro-choice doctors have proven to be unreliable in providing sound advice in a time when a woman is emotionally distraught. I witnessed that first hand with my wife who to this day regrets her decision to abort our child. If I had been involved we would have not aborted our child.
     
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    I think you mean artificial insemination. Whether insemination takes place between a man and woman or artificially life starts the moment a woman's egg is fertilized by a man's semen. The science is really simple.
     
  16. Natty Bumpo

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    If, like most, freedom-loving Americans, you support the Roe the v Wade standard and its restoration as the law of the land, your interests are unrelated to the thread's topic, apparently. Authoritarian zealots cannot be permitted to inflict their aberrant notions upon everyone.


     
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    Of course the violation of "my body my choice" is related to the abortion law -surrendering control of ones bodily integrity to the Politicians .. which is exactly what you favor -- in desperate hope that these politicians only apply this authoritarian power you wish to grant them for things you agree with inflicting this aberrant notion on everyone. Forced medical Treatment .. Institutionalized corporate violation of Essential liberty "my body my choice' codified into law .

    Sex with the Boss or lose Job -- just one example of this authoritarian aberration in law you wish to inflict on everyone. and of course the Red crowd are going to jump all over this justification for law that you favor .. this violation of "my body my choice" that you favor in law .. to violate my body my choice with respect to abortion.

    Hypocrisy in law has its price Bumper .. belief in freedom of speech -- only for speech you agree with -- is not belief in freedom of speech at all. Your hatred for the founding principle and our constitutional republic contributing to this folly .. Liberty or Death is the motto ---not bend and remove the restrictions on Gov't power because we love Big Brother .. and BB would never use that power against us .. never tell a lie ..

    Cum on Natty --- this Partisan blindness is not becoming in a Classical Liberal --- you must pull yourself from this woke joke .. which is not a joke at all -- but a really horrible authoritarian aberration






     
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    Cowardly word games by cowards who can't admit they support legalized abortion.

    Furthermore, as we saw with their support of Biden's vaccine mandate, the Faux Choice crowd only supports an individual's self-propriety when it suits them.
     
  19. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Most Americans strongly support reproductive freedom and Roe v Wade, the law of the land for half-a-century.

    Your impotence in refuting that reality is blatant.
     
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    The result however is a dead baby.
     
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    Why stop at the womb?

    Is it a good idea to surrender control of the rest of our bodies to politicians?​
     
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    So lets get this straight
    The left doesn't want to surrender wombs to politicians but wants to surrender children's genitals and puberty? That sounds contradictory to me. can't have your cake and eat it to. I say the government stays the hell out of ALL bodily decisions.
    I've reversed my stance on transing kids as well.
    Most of the ones doing it are lefties and I'd rather they not re-produce either.
    LET THEM ALL RUIN THEMSELVES
    I welcome it!
     
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    I demand no such thing. I approve of tolerance and kindness towards others. Don't you?
     
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    I didn't read past that nasty "baby killers" remark. Thanks for proving my point.
     
  25. Natty Bumpo

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    Are you aware of attempts by politicians to arrogate other aspects of a citizen's bodily autonomy?

    What are they?
     
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