Sweden Continues to Prove Everyone Wrong

Despite what you may have heard, Sweden's relatively relaxed approach to the COVID pandemic is proving to be a success. The numbers speak for themselves:



The number of COVID cases in Sweden is also leveling off.



Sweden withstood the COVID pandemic without experiencing anomalous rates of death or infection. Their hospital system wasn't overwhelmed. And they managed to preserve their economy (and their freedoms) unlike the rest of Europe.

But don't expect the hysterics to acknowledge Sweden's success. That would require them to admit how wrong they were, and that is the last thing they want to do. Instead, they will grasp at straws in a desperate attempt to muddy the waters and cast doubt on the Swedish approach. Yet the data I've cited cannot be refuted or gainsaid. It is what it is.

Bravo, Sweden!

 

Swedes have never been willing to commit national suicide to please their politicians.

 

Sweden has a 9% mortality rate. They've lost 1,000 people and they're 1/30th our size.

You don't want to be Sweden right now.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdash...4740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6?mod=article_inline

 

Swedish politicians actually deserve a lot of the credit as well. Apparently, Sweden has some honest and reasonable politicians. I wonder what that is like.

 

And also:

The criticism comes as the Swedish death total hits new heights. 1,033 people have now died from COVID-19 in Sweden, according to the Swedish Public Health Agency. That's an increase of 114 in the past 24 hours. The daily update also confirms that 11,445 people have tested positive in Sweden with 915 receiving or having received intensive care treatment.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidn...y-has-failed-as-deaths-top-1000/#56e148887b6c


That's a staggering rate of critical cases. If that were us, we'd have 54,000 people in ICU right now.

 

See what I meant about desperately grasping at straws?

Just cannot admit that you're wrong, eh? Too difficult for you?

A 9% mortality rate? How did you arrive at that number?

1,033 confirmed COVID deaths versus a population of 10.2 million is roughly 10 deaths per 100,000 people or 0.01%.

Seems like they're doing just fine. And unlike the rest of Europe, they still have a functioning economy and basic freedoms.

Sweden just doesn't care about your fear-mongering.

 

You know that's not the mortality rate, right? You take the number of cases and divide it by the number who have died. Sweden's mortality rate is horrendously bad and I repeat: you do not want to be them.

 

Again, the numbers speak for themselves. Sweden is performing much better than Italy, Spain, France, the UK, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Switzerland, all of whom imposed harsh lockdowns.

And as the data clearly shows, Sweden's infection rate is leveling off. But before that happens, the number of new cases and deaths hits its peak. How utterly disingenuous to try and portray that as a failure.

But dishonesty is the foundation of the hysterical narrative being foisted on the people of the world by bed-wetting authoritarians. Swedes are very lucky that they did not succumb to this insanity.

 

Good to know that 'honest reasonable politician' is not an oxymoron - at least in Sweden.

American politicians have more important things to focus on.

"Politicians spend an extraordinary amount of time raising money ... it takes up between 30 to 70% of their day." EXTORTION, "How Politicians Extract Your money, Buy Votes, And Line Their Own Pockets, Peter Schweizer, HMO, NY, NY, 2013, p. 58.

 

You know that your number isn't the mortality rate either, right?

You have to take the number of TOTAL cases, not just ones that have been reported, and divide it by the number who have died.

At any rate, we KNOW that as a percentage of their total population, Sweden has experienced roughly 10 deaths per 100,000 people. That's 0.01% of their population.

How hysterical and disingenuous does one need to be in order to portray that as a national emergency?

 

They do indeed. Sweden's numbers are bad. Their mortality rate is more than twice as high as ours and their ICU rate is NINE PERCENT. Do you realize how bad that is? That's why they're the only ones doing this, and they'll soon change course. UK also flirted this doing this. Now they're losing 700-800 a day (equivalent 4,000 American deaths a day).

Here's the data:
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdash...4740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6?mod=article_inline
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

 

Lolz.

Oh, are you saying Sweden doesn't know how many cases are even out there? I thought they were "proving everyone wrong"?

Can you point to a post where you made one successful prediction about this virus?

 

Are there any models projecting the deaths resulting from 20% to 30% unemployment?

 

I've already posted the data. It shows that Sweden is doing far better than several European countries who imposed harsh lockdowns. You cannot seem to address that fact. Probably because it blows up your entire narrative.

And what's "bad" about 0.01% of a population dying from a virus? It's statistically negligible. Meanwhile, Sweden still has a functioning economy and society. And unlike the rest of Europe, they don't have to figure out how to transition back towards normality because they're already mostly there.

Face it. You and all the other hysterics were just dead wrong about this virus. You painted a picture of doom and gloom that was based on absolutely nothing except speculative models that relied on flimsy assumptions.

But you will not admit it because that would be a massive hit to your ego. You are all in on the doom and gloom narrative and will never change your mind.

 

Your own graph shows the logarithmic rate of Sweden being constant. This is bad news because this means the virus is increasing expenentionally there.


Sweden has 1,100 cases per 1 million pop, and that is only a bit behind the US at 1,800 per 1 million.

 

Exactly the kind of vapid response I expect from people who peddle fear and lies.

But the fact remains, your number is not the mortality rate for COVID in Sweden. That would need to include the total number of cases, not just the ones that have been reported.

They are.

They've imposed relatively modest restrictions and have yet to experience the doomsday scenarios that chicken littles like you have been predicting.

They are proving everyone wrong and in glorious fashion.

Of course you will never admit it because your entire identity is wrapped up in this hysteria. You HAVE to be right otherwise you will be embarrassed. And that is what you fear more than anything else.

That's right. Try to change the subject. Anything to avoid admitting that your hysterical predictions were based on nothing.

FACT: 10 COVID deaths per 100,000 people in Sweden.

That is basically nothing. A statistical blip on the radar. Far from the doomsday scenarios that hysterics like you have been predicting.

 

No, it doesn't.

If it were exponential, the logarithmic graph would be a straight line. But it's not a straight line. It's flattening noticeably.

In other words, the US plunged itself into a recession in order to achieve a statistically negligible difference in infection rates.

And you think that is a point in your favor?

 

In 1981, what percent of the population had died from AIDS? In Spring of 1918, what percent of the global population had died from Spanish flu.

You see your mistake now?

 

They always ignore that, don't they?

Wouldn't want to have an honest discussion about the negative health effects of unemployment, loss of income, and prolonged social isolation.

Just sweep that under the rug.

 

I will forecast that when this is finished, it will turn out that the actual infection rates in all countries will end up being much higher than what we find today. As testing of more population will likely find, many many more folks will have been infected, and not reacted. It is likely that the virus just wasn't as successful in finding hosts as is currently being hyped at. We'll know this soon enough. And the result will have been that so many countries will have put their nations on hold for what may end up being an illness with about the same death rates as normal flu. That will be the time when rational folks will have to decide if the measures that we've been asked to accomplish to curb the spread were in fact entirely unnecessary or if the only slightly limited the impact in our populations. What I am also sure of is that if it turns out that the massive shutdowns were as ineffective in curbing the spread as is being inferred by the current data, that lots of folks will have suffered for a very little bit of security.

 

Did we respond to AIDS by plunging our economy into a recession and limiting basic freedoms for hundreds of millions of people?

Because the conditions prevailing at the time of the Spanish flu are so similar to present times, right?

 

The number of new cases in Sweden is about 500 per day for the past two weeks, which is equivalent to a 15,000 daily increase in the US. The number of new cases in Sweden goes up and down in waves, but with every new wave, the peak keep increasing. Right now, they are on the low-end of the wave but they could be on an even bigger wave. Time will tell.


The growth doesn't have to be exponential to be a problem. As long as the linear growth is growing, or even just constant, there is a problem. Countries that have implemented quarantine measures have begun to see a decline in daily cases. Like the US below.

 

Political expediency guides the modelers. Nevertheless, there are few hints out there for anyone who wants to look.

"When people lose 75% or more of their wealth, they are 50% more likely to die early than people whose wealth remains steady, according to new research."

"Over a 20-year follow-up period, 25% of people experienced a negative wealth shock; those men and women were at a much higher risk for death from all causes."
TIME, HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH, A Sudden Loss of Wealth Increases Your Chances of Death, BY ALEXANDRA SIFFERLIN, APRIL 3, 2018.
https://time.com/5225387/wealth-loss-early-death/

 

Per the CDC mortality rate is used calculate by the population.

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dsepd/ss1978/lesson3/section3.html

See table 3.4 under "Cause Specific Death Rate"

But hysterics...

 

PERFECT Shilldar thread, crystal clear. Thanks OP for rooting them out. I suspect we'll be seeing far more because no one except for a shill would number-crunch Swedish numbers in this negative way so transparently. Who would bother with such distortion but shills? The Swedish numbers speak for themselves, no fake news massaging necessary.