Tackle white supremacy as terrorism, experts say

Sure ... but so far they've been unsuccessful for the most part. Lib student activism has resulted in Trump proposing to withhold funds. Social medias censorship isn't being well received either. So far gov't internet censorship hasn't gotten any real support in congress. Trump was definitely the right guy, at the right time. Adding 1 more pipe dream to the long list of liberal "crazy" ?

 

So how would you define a white supremacist? How would you make sure that they are white supremacists?

It sounds too much like McCarthyism to me.

We punish crimes and believing one race is superior or inferior to the other is not a crime.

 

Well you would have to have a problem in the first place. The problem is people dying right. So if you're panicking about a white supremacist killing your child you're being manipulated by the news media. it's far more likely your child will be killed by suicide.

And I know you people are desperate for white supremacists and you want to love you this attack against your McCarthy's communists.

But all of your rhetoric is strictly for politics UMass kit with phrases like stop it before they start killing people. Like some church marm baking that we please think about the children when you're not thinking about them you're thinking about creating imaginary enemies to support to your conspiracy theory.

The chances of a person being killed by a white supremacist terror attack is a statistical zero. The chances of a person being killed by suicide is significant.

But they're not a corpse you can purchase upon and spew your rhetoric. Because if you cared about people you probably wouldn't care about political moral panics.

 

C'mon! These phony alarmists? Look how they're straddling the fence. Weepy eyed victims who brag about the superiority of ANTIFA guerrillas destructive capabilities? Want a glimpse of what nationalistic terrorism looks like? Belfast, N. Ireland. Before they start insisting that's what they fear will "eventually" happen here ... newsflash ... it has. Check the Molly McGuires and their "progressive" unionism tactics. Progressive socialists have always exploited the violent fringes to facilitate their agenda.

 

Thank you.....The Racist in Chief loves seeing attacks by white supremacists. Gotta get rid if those "darkies."

 

Democrats are white supremacists.

 

You are liars.

 

You are mistaken . The conduct was already illegal before the Patriot Act redefined it as terrorism. The state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt each of these elements but there has to be 'acts that are a violation of the criminal laws of the US or of any state' as a requisite crime. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2331

Here is the definition of 'Domestic terrorism' according to US code 2331.
domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A)
involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i)
to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii)
to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii)
to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C)
occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'

Here is the way the ACLU explains it ." A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act "dangerous to human life" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism." https://www.aclu.org/other/how-usa-patriot-act-redefines-domestic-terrorism.

The real problem according to them is not that the definition in the Patriot Act does not require actual illegal conduct and proof of intent, its in the breadth and scope of its powers of investigation. I will let you read the article. Its fascinating.

 

Define 'White Supremacist'. How can anyone answer with justice, if you do not?

 

Anyone want to say, LGBT, media, Antifa, Muslims in government, AOC, hell, let's just say the House of Representatives for what they did to Trump, Cavanaugh, and any other person they do not like, or is that racist?

 

THIS is where the problem is. According to most dems, if you are a Trump supporter, you are a white supremacist. Therefore you could be classified as a terrorist. So half the country are terrorist.

 

Why are we just stopping at white people that are racist? Why not African-Americans, Asians etc? and why stop at racism....why not charge people that think of murdering their ex-wives or ex-husbands? or stealing? or dealing drugs? Wouldn't it be nice to tackle all those problem BEFORE they happen?

 

Pretty much the funny thing about it is they call others fascists.

 

Just to finish my thought. the act does not have to be represented by a bomb going off in the church. The illegal conduct was in researching the making of the bomb AND acquiring the ingredients of the bomb AND writing down the plan to bomb the church AND in communicating that plan with co-conspirators that you recruited, AND planning an escape route after planting the bomb, AND planning the cover-up. This process is no different that prosecuting someone for attempted murder when the murder itself never happened. You prove acts leading up to the murder and you prove intent to commit the murder. Criminal acts including conspiracy to commit + intent = conviction. If the intent includes an effort to coerce intimidate the government or its population you now have a terrorism charge.

 

Just more of the easily shredded talking points that you seem to be so fond of.

Bottom line, Trump has gone out of his way to defend those who hold White Supremacist beliefs.

Look no further than his initial statements on Charlottesville.

Trump knows that he has broad appeal to White Supremacists, and he doesn't want to do anything to alienate that key constituency in his base.

That is why Trump won't admit that White Supremacists are Domestic Terrorists.

It might cost him votes.

Obviously, you are free to believe what you want.

And at a place like PF (that skews so heavily Pro-Trump RW), I am sure you will find people that agree with you.

But to any objective observer, your talking points are easily shredded.

Carry on, and I hope you continue to enjoy your time here.

 

Exactly

 

The liberal attacks on southern monuments was opposed by all conservatives

Of whom 99% are good people

 

U mad bro? I got a two'fer "shredding" your Ru FB troll meme and nazi meme simultaniously huh? Hilda won the white nationalist "heartland". ::

 

That's where you're mistaken. Now that the whole Russia thing has turned out to be nothing, now every Trump supporter is a white supremacist/ terrorist. It's all they've got left to run with.

 

Are we back on the "really fine people" BS. Even you know that to be untrue and only repeated by the very uninformed or those suffering sever TDS.

 

LoL, IKR..... it is kind of like a murderer stabbing somebody while screaming "quit stabbing me"....

We can't have anything resembling sane discussions anymore.

 

Not with certain elements of the body politic.

 

Didn't you people learn ANYTHING from the 2016 election? Democrats and especially Hills called Republicans every name in the book including deplorable. How did that work out for you? I noticed that you especially like "racist". Not a good look...

 

It is reality that you seem to be railing against. It was mostly the fact that Obama was only half white that a portion of the country so hated him.

 

Did you miss the 2018 election? It is going to be 2050 and conservatives/Evangelicals/Confederates are going to be still harping back to their big win 2016. A win that has been muddied by Russian interference, and the ensuing corruption to hide that fact. The deplorable designation has not gone away. The fact that the base sticks to Trump, just deepens the designation.