TDS and madness

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you now pretending to respect the Rule of Law .. humor - good that you know one of them though .. kudo's for that much.

    What has Trump been proven guilty of - in a court of Law ? That's not the bar being used ... Fail

    What else you have to say.
     
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    What crimes
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I listed them previously - why are you running in circles - Treason - aiding and abetting the enemy - war crimes - crimes against humanity - then lying to congress - and the State sponsored propaganda - was one example -

    Did you not know ? Quite something to have missed those -
     
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    Like you guys said about trump, lets see the conviction.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say anything of the sort about Trump - and no Idea who "You guys" is referring to.

    Your posts have no substance.
     
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    Every time trump was accused of a crime I always heard, lets see his conviction from trump supporters.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a Trump supporter - but regardless your posts have no substance -- no idea what you want to say.
     
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    So you are immune to facts and reason. Carry on.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not at all - just that you have provided none - your last number of posts contain no substance - just a bad attempt at Ad Hom Fallacy.

    Obama-Biden-Hillary's crimes were being discussed - with respect to the crimes of your beloved Trump.
     
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    Except they haven't been.
     
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    should we stop chasing bank robbers once they have left the bank? there are plenty of unanswered questions about the trump criminal enterprise. the interests of "unity" are not served by allowing criminals to go free.
     
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    Both sides are trying to do that though. The left will try and take gun rights away, or try and tell you what words you can and cannot say, or what kind of vehicle you can drive. The right will try and take away a woman’s right to abortion, restrict access to voting, and your example, joining the military as trans. I don’t think it is a Trump thing, it is a politician thing. Bunch of power hungry narcissists.
     
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    Nope.
     
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    You don't think the fringe left isn't trying to ban certain words or phrases that are deemed "hateful"? or trying to ban gas guzzlers? I bet that quite a few are. I don't think any of what I wrote applies to mainstream left and right, i'm talking more the extreme of each group. At least you didn't try to deny the taking away of gun rights part.
     
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    I would agree the Trump and its movement is deranged. It is a weird syndrome where conservatives believed whatever the Trump said, no matter how silly. Even believed the Trump to have been a great man who did great things. I guess the joke is on conservatives, isn't it? It is why y'all can't get over it, unlike us liberals who wished it good riddance a couple of months ago, and have forgotten about it.
     
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    Don't want to face reality do you? It is a rather common occurrence, that there is more criminality associated with the Republican Party than the Democratic Party. I'm sure it has to do with the fact that the Republican Party is party with unpopular ideas. It needs deceit in order to win elections. That is why they have created an overreaching propaganda network and the Democratic Party has not.
     
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    It is where ideology hits the pavement. In the Conservadome it is all fine and dandy to pretend all manner of silly things, but here, in the real world, things are different. One can pretend all day long that another committed a crime, but without proof, one is just pretending.
     
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    I don't really have anything against people who voted for him just because they thought he was the lesser of two evils. And many of the people who support him beyond that are simply badly misinformed/gullible.

    In reality, he's a thief and a con-man who has done everything from wage war on the 1st Amendment to lying about 9/11 just to get attention. The most generous thing I can say about him is that he's unwell and needs help. And I don't foresee every forgiving him for literally trying to invalidate the vot s of millions of people and overturn the election. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
     
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    Not me who has a problem with reality mate - and we are not talking the Republican Party - We are talking about the Trump administration vs Obama Administration . .. stack up what you got on the scale - and the other side .. I will do the same .. chips fall where they may.

    I have already put a number of things on my scale - war crimes - crimes against humanity - Treason - aiding and abetting the enemy - putting out a massive propaganda narrative - to justify evil actions .. then lying to congress about it .. and on the home front to keep is safe from the terrorists Obama was arming and supporting - lying to congress about the en mass domestic surveillance program..

    So there are two items one side of the scale - What you got on the other ? Just two for now - we can go two by two..
     
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    Same with Blue - "Do what we say - not what we do"
     
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    I am quite certain that Obama was one of the most honest and honorable presidents that we have ever had, and that he ran one of the cleanest administrations. There is, and never has been any kind of scandal, corruption, or criminality associated with Obama. Other than the hate filled speech coming out of certain individuals on the right, that pretends otherwise.
     
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    You want to compare Obama to Trump. Obama got his start in politics out of frustration out of trying to help people in his community. When he still couldn't get enough out of the Illinois Senate he ran for the US Senate. When he still couldn't do enough, he ran for president, promising hope for the people. His greatest accomplishments was in reversing the Bush era economic crash and in getting passed, national healthcare legislation. HE could do no more, because of Republican obstructionism designed to ruin Obama's presidency. Yet Obama, and his popularity continued unabated.

    Trump got its start in politics by going onto FOX News and insisting that Obama was not a real American and he was letting all the Hispanics pour into the country at will. That and the whole gay marriage thing. Plus the Hillary's email silliness, with Russian help, of course. Not exactly an honorable operation. And of course, we all know, all the world knows, the Trump never spoke the truth, was too inept to do his job, and had to go. Obama won the popular vote, twice. The Trump lost the popular vote, twice. Obama was re-elected, the Trump was not. Obama had approval ratings in the sixties, the Trump's approval spend most of its short presidency in the forties. The Trump was impeached, twice. Hard as they tried, the corrupt Republicans could find nothing to impeach Obama over.

    As far as I can tell, Obama's presidency was mostly successful, and the Trumps, mostly a disaster. People and the country were better off at the end of Clinton's presidency than at the beginning. People and the country were better off at the beginning of Bush's presidency, and worse at the end. People and the country were better off at the end of Obama's presidency than at the beginning. When the Trump became president, people and the country were better off than when it finally left. Notice the pattern?
     
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    Proving once again you folks can convince yourselves of anything.
     
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