(Tea Party) Constitutional fundamentalists are wackos

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  1. savage-republican

    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    i have never personally used that, if someone uses it, its pretty juvenile.
     
  2. Montoya

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    Then please pay close attention to your social group members...I will not name names as I will probably get in trouble for speaking the obvious. But please I implore you to take notice.
     
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    The funny thing is, Obama keeps inviting these evil rich people to the white house and they keep walking away with what they want. Warren Buffet, CEO of Berkshire hathaway, second richest man in the world, Obama supporter, Obama care supporter, recently bought the BNSF railway without even a justice department investigation. The STB was not even allowed to investigate this transaction, even though they are in charge whenever transportation assets of this size are sold.

    Explain to me why Obama surrounds himself with those you so loath!
     
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    savage-republican Well-Known Member

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    its not up to me to police what they say, the forum allows juvenile language, I just hate when I see the word **********, and I will not respond to it. I think its the worst term used on here, other then racist ones, the *******, retardican, and so on are dumb, but I wouldn't call them offensive.
     
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    Must be why the country is shifting quickly to the right. Must be why the Republicans took Congress, why the president is losing to generic GOP candidates and why Obama's base is leaving him. America is tired of the progressive agenda. The US is a center-right country.
     
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    What an absurd statement. The 90% that are against any medicare cuts say otherwise.
     
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    That's irrelevant to what I stated. But then again, 60% of the country wants to repeal ObamaCare.

    What a joke.
     
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    “The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.”

    - Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels: The Communist Manifesto CE, 1848.


    “From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need”

    - Karl Marx 1875


    "It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too."

    -Barak Obama to "Joe the Plumber," 2008.

    When explaining how he will redistribute “Joe the Plumber's" wealth IF he was successful in his business plans under Communist Pillar #2 (A heavy progressive or graduated income tax).​

    Can't you opine your views without arguing Marxist philosophy? Can ANY Decorate? :chew:
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    One mistake many make is referring to the US Constitution as reflecting what was written in 1785 but that is incorrect. The Constitution, as with any document, must be considered based upon its lastest revision as the last revision (amendment) reflects its most recent effective date. It was last revised by the 27th Amendment so it is effectively a document based upon its most recent revision in 1992. The fact that it contains text that originated more than 200 years previously does not change the fact that it was most recently revised to bring it up to the present in 1992. We're not referring to a 200 plus year old document but instead referring to a document that was current as of 1992 when the last amendment was ratified.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    That 90% number also roughly reflects the same percentage of Americans that oppose the FICA/Payroll tax increases necessary to fund Medicare.

    The "I want a Ferrari but I want someone else to buy it for me" attitude is why the US is over $14 trillion in debt.
     
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    It is a terrible point. Women today have the right to vote. How did that happen? By a constitutional amendment, that's how. If you don't like what the Constitution says then work to change it, you don't get to just ignore it.

    19th Amendment
    The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
    Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
     
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    Please, you can't know what the constitution actually means, so you have to just go by whatever your statist gut tells you is right.
     
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    Not sure if I want to continue with senseless name calling, so let it suffice that extremists on the right as well as the left wish to interpret the Constitution as it fits their needs. That's all this boils down to. If we don't get it out way, we attack, belittle, dismiss.
    The right picks and chooses, and yes, esp many members of the tea party do, but the left does just the same. Its a constant spin.
    It doesn't mean the law of the land is outdated, it just doesn't measure up to certain ideologies.
    We do have Amendments, within which we right previous wrongs, adjust for fairness, but we mustn't needlessly micromanage to satisfy trends and social fantasies.
     
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    Only a liberal who thinks those who believe in following the Constitution are "fundamentalists".
     
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    Honey, you don't belong in the USofA. This is a Capitalist nation. Please do yourself a favor and go to Europe. France or Greece - and give up trying to make America a socialist/Marxist nation.

    It's over. The game is up. We're on to the progressive left's real agenda: full socialism/Marxism.
     
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    Oh do please tell us how the largest, richest, unequivocally corruptible corporation ON EARTH is going to {snicker} keep the "evil" rich in check.

    I'm in need of another laugh this morning

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    The Constitution allowed for the admendment process to bring about your Utopian asperations. If the majority of the country truly wanted a socialist state, it would occur in the andmendment process, which it has not.

    Who are you to define evil or rich? We have laws and regulations that are designed to establish a fair playing field. You can thank your oversized government for corrupting this playing field.

    We have anti-trust laws to promote competition, yet, we allow Asia to monopolize through middlemen. It is called crony capitalism. Proper government regulation would not allow products produced elsewhere in if those countries do not produce under the same/simular fair regulations such as: minimum wage, workers comp, unemployment benefits, OASHA, EPA and other rules. Since China does not, Nike should not be able to sell products produced there here. It is simple.

    Instead of blaming the so called "rich and evil" you need to blame your Utopian God(governemnt).
     
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    You are absolute correct. If We the People would actually have to PAY for Democrat wealth distribution and social engineering schemes they would be far less popular. Democrats need debt to survive. :omfg:
     
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    What's funny to me about statements like this is that the people who make them seem to think this only works one way. If we are free to interpret the Constitution in new ways because the way it was written is obsolete and unproductive, then there is obviously nothing wrong with intepreting the First Amendment to allow Christianity to be injected into public schools and government. "Separation of church and state" (which does not actually appear in those words) is clearly outdated. Fortunately, today we have progressed beyond that point and so it's most productive for everyone if we interpret that differently.

    I'm sure the "living document" liberals would all agree that this is equally valid to any new interpretations they'd like to make, right?
     
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    Sorry but the first amendment clearly states seperation of church and state. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or abridging the freedom of.
     
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    This kind of either-or thinking is why it's impossible to have any rational discussions with the conservatives on this board.
     
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    Why? Because our Nation was founded by right-wing Liberals who wanted a free market, free society and free country?

    This is a center-right country that values Liberty. True liberals know what that means.
     
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    False claims once again.
     
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    You're only a true liberal if you collect unemployment and smoke pot all day.

    :)
     
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    Like with the Patriot Act.

    Fundamental change seems pretty good when the government recognizes corporate personhood, when millions are denied access to decent health care, when the country is buried in debt, when the nation's government undermines democracy abroad and at home, when wall street racks up a profit while millions are unemployed, when government is dominated by the two party corporate monopoly, when civil liberties are undermined, when wages have stagnated for the middle and lower class, when the country falls further behind in education etc
     
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