Texas AG Says Trump Would've 'Lost' State If It Hadn't Blocked Mail-in Ballots

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  1. ShadowX

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    I’m thinking you misunderstood my assertion. What do you mean?
     
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    Oh please, your hate is clear as day.
     
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    My god.

    If I request a ballot, and you steal it, I'm gonna request another one. What do you think happens when two ballots with my name on them show up? Has that happened anywhere? Multiply that by what? Thousands? Millions? Do you now see how ridiculous a signature verification would be?
     
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    ^^^^^^^ look up
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How is sending out absentee request forums illegal?

    I am disagreeing with the “illegal” part
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don’t ask me, ask Ken Paxton, ima just quoting him.
     
  7. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He is to stupid or partisan — probably both — to understand the difference between a ballot and a request.

    Republican politicians will do anything they can to steal elections and their base cheers them on.
     
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    There is no way the poster understands the level of effort that it would take to forge all those signatures, let alone the prep work involved.
     
  9. ShadowX

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    Like I thought, you misunderstood my assertion. Allow me to expound.

    This is the basic process when a mail in vote comes in. First the ballot comes into the facility in an envelope that has the personally identifiable information on it. In front of a group of bipartisan observers they take that envelope and (in some states) check the information on the envelope against the voter registration records to verify they haven’t voted twice etc. at that point they separate the ballot from the envelope and they then unfold the ballot and batch it in a box. That box of NOTHING BUT BALLOTS with no identifying information on them (along with thousands of others) is then sent to another facility or to another area of the same facility where they are then fed into machines and counted.

    My question to you is... without a signature verification audit and comparing the number of envelopes with identifying information that matches the voter registration records with the number of mail-in ballots.... how do you know someone did not come in between the time that the ballots were separated from the envelopes and batched with dozens of boxes of UNIDENTIFIABLE ballots and the time they fed them into the machine?

    Because those fraudulent ballots are going to appear JUST as legitimate as the actual ballots, they’ll have no identifying information on them just like the rest of the ballots in those boxes. So an audit is going to do nothing but include the fraudulent ballots in the count because there’s no way to distinguish the fraudulent ballots from the real ones once you separate them from the envelope.

    The ONLY way to know if that happened is by counting the number of envelopes you have with signatures that match the voter registration records and then comparing that to the number of mail-in ballots you received.

    If there was fraud then you will have more mail in ballots than you do envelopes with unique and matching signatures. If you do not have fraud then the number of envelopes will match the number of mail in ballots counted.
     
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    Read above. Same question to you.
     
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    People so afraid of Donald Trump!
     
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    we would have expected to see many more flagged for those issues described above than two.
    Seems you are already predisposed that is was rigged, when your previous statements claim you want to do a discovery.
     
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    No, this is along the lines of gun confiscation; the level of effort involved. One needs to hash out the details of the effort to truly understand of its futility.
     
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    No I’m saying that because peoples signatures change over time, if we used the criteria posted above there is NO WAY they looked at 15,000 signatures and only TWO of them exhibited those criteria. Even if fraud didn’t occur, we would still expect far more than two that fit that criteria.
     
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    That level of effort is not that difficult. Certainly not so difficult as to be impossible.

    But we can solve this. Just let us do a signature verification audit of one whole state that was in contention.
     
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    You are assuming a stolen election. "NO WAY", is not a basis for accusing others of stealing an election.
     
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    You're on !!!!
    Trying to take every gun is beyond biblical. !!!!

    Again, details !!!!!
     
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    Maybe you don’t understand what I’m saying.

    Let’s assume I’m a Republican operative and I want to cheat. I get one of my buddies in the government to give me the template for the ballots. The ballots have no identifying information on them. So I print out 50,000 ballots and I vote for Trump and the senator we want to win on all of them. I also put myself in the position of a vote counter or someone on the floor with other vote counters who are sympathetic to my cause.

    While the other hundreds of boxes of UNIDENTIFIABLE ballots are wheeled into the facility to be counted. I use my access to wheel in my three dozen boxes of 50,000 unidentifiable ballots and either feed them to my counter who is complicit or count them myself.

    How do you know that didn’t happen, without a signature verification audit? Those fraudulent ballots will be IDENTICAL to the real ones because they have no identifiable information on them.
     
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    Would it take coordination to pull it off in a presidential race? Absolutely. Would it take coordination that is unfathomably impossible? Absolutely not.
     
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    No duplicate ballots. No signature fraud. It really is that simple.

    Your scenario is fantasy. Impossible without getting caught.
     
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    How can you catch them without a signature verification audit?

    This should be funny.
     
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    Solve what?
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    do you ever read the posts already answered DUPLICATE BALLOTS

    Say it 10 times. Maybe it will help
     
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    Whether or not that level of coordination is impossible to accomplish.
     
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    Bro are you not reading? In my scenario there would BE NO DUPLICATE BALLOTS because there are no envelopes for the ballots to provide identifying information.

    Either you’re not reading or you’re being purposefully obtuse.
     
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