Thanks, Gov Perry: TX Revenues Bounce Back!

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  1. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never asked anything about California.



    What does this have to do with Perry? I don't understand why you keep bringing up California in a thread about Perry. I don't understand why you keep responding to my posts with this off topic nonsense.

    I asked a simple question. Name what Perry has done the has made Texas what it is in regards to jobs. You keep responding with stuff about a California delegation.

    What does that have to do with Perry? I asked a simple question. Apparently it will go unanswered.
     
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    Perry is much more stupid..
    Compare any school records.

    Perry flipped on Party affiliation ..NOT ROMNEY.
    Now that's a TRUE conservative.:puke:

    All we hear is Romney care this and Romney care that. Do all Texans whine about the media coverage ?

    If Perry was presidential material he could handle this crapola easily..
    SEE..Romney.
    It is a vetting process.
    Republicans vet better than democrats.
    4 aces are not the best hand...when the other hand has a gun pointed at you from under the table.

    Texas may not be the best place for America's next president to be from.
    Being anti- New York or Calif. does not automatically make you superior.
    It just makes you more Texas.
     
  3. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Sure you do. You had asked a member:

    I provided you info where your own state sent a delegation to Texas just a few months ago....April, I believe it was.....to find the answers to that very question. Since you refuse to believe anything we say or provide you....ignore everything you demand.......why not just find out from your own state's delegation what the answers were. I'm sure it was in your newspapers there. If you have trouble, I can google it for you and provide to you their results.....which would be specific answers to your question. But really....you should stop demanding things from us if you're simply going to ignore them.
     
  4. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    The problems with the liberals is that they do not understand business and how it works. Bringing more business to the state means more jobs. More jobs means more taxes paid, more homes bought, more grocery stores and other businesses supported locally....and on and on. All that ends up being worth a lot more to the state than the business tax benefit they gave in the first place.
     
  5. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    I once was a Democrat too. Like Perry, didn't know any Republicans growing up. But we got out in the real world and smartened up.....and stepped away from the "Dark Side." :)

    Lots of them....as do lots of the entire country. The mainstream media is biased and that's a fact.


    I don't care where they are from. IF Romney ends up being our candiate, I will support him 100%. Right now, we're in our Primary....trying to decide. And I'm merely saying.....Republicans should watch what the mainstream media is doing and ask themselves some serious as to why?

    Last time Republicans had a Primary, the mainstram went after Romney....focusing on his Mormon religion and bringing up other negative things they considered flaws. So what happened? We ended up with McCain. McCain is who the mainstream and the left wanted for our candidate because they knew that Republicans had a problem with him. And some 4 million Republicans did not show up to vote for McCain.....a point that the mainstream and liberals did not miss. Republicans need to be smarter this time and NOT let the mainstream liberals choose our candidate for us.
     
  6. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I guess we're expected to study and be prepared to discuss all the details of every bill passed in Texas... instead of basing our opinions on the standard of living we experience everyday. Asking the same questions over and over is what you do when you don't have an argument.

    To me, it's important to remember the things we don't have in Texas. Like state income tax. Or casino gambling. Not that I'm all that anti-casino... but it's an untapped source of revenue we haven't resorted to yet.

    I'm also thankful we don't have a hostile relationship with the many people from Mexico who are here illegally. Sure, there's plenty of friction where criminals are involved, but nothing like Arizona has encountered. I credit Gov Perry for that peaceful existence, too. Declaring them enemies would have made living conditions considerably more strained.
     
  7. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    The voice of reason from another Texan!!!
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I think Perry is a voice of reason, too. Only problem is... he's no showman. However, considering the results he's achieved, can't help but think if he spoke with a yankee accent, folks from states like California would be more receptive.

    On the casino issue, you know we've got senators in Austin pushing for it all the time. They're easy to pick out... the one's with D after their name and dollar signs in their eyes. They've been pushing for years now, with no success. I remember when Louisiana legalized gambling, do you? Remember how it was gonna help build up their state coffers and employ lots of folks?

    It didn't help their economy in the long run because so many people who live there lost everything they had at those casinos. I struck up a conversation with a dealer who was from Shreveport last time I was there and he said the number of people who lost their businesses in the area was sickening. It seems the folks who can least afford it are often the ones who get sucked into thinking they're gonna hit it big... next time.

    I'm glad we don't have casinos here. The state lottery is bad enough.
     
  9. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    True. And if anybody wants to gamble, they can easily go right across state lines into Oklahoma or Louisiana to do so.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    And they do!! Their parking lots are full of Texas plates! Especially from my neck of the woods! CO may hate us, but okies & webfoots love to see us comin!
     
  11. Think for myself

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    Yes, and you brought up a delegation form California. Pretty sure Perry was not that delegation and I am pretty sure Texas is not California.

    Yes, and you failed to say what that answer was.



    Please spare me the straw man arguments. I never said I did not believe it. I said you copied a bunch of crap from a Perry spank bank. None of it seemed to answer the question of what Perry has done that has made Texas the economic model it is today.

    Please don't claim you answered my question and in the next sentence say I can find the answer as you did not provide it. That is just silly.


    I didn't demand jack (*)(*)(*)(*) from you. I was not even talking to you. You came in here, I did not seek you out. You are free to not attempt to say what it was that Perry has done. You are free to not argue and be incorrect. I demand nothing of you or anyone.
     
  12. Think for myself

    Think for myself Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Or you could say what these accomplishments of Perry's you touted actually are. Look at your thread title. You tank Perry for Texas raising tax revenues. I simply asked what it was that he did that was an accomplishment.

    To date not a single person on this forum has been able to say what it was that Perry did that made Texas the alleged economic envy of other states.
     
  13. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Oh yes, we have. Perry is the Governor of this state that has done so well during this recession....creating MOST of the country's jobs, in fact. Perry has created a business-friendly environment.....many of those details provided to you long ago in this very thread.

    We cannot help it that you are so intent on ignoring anything furnished you. That makes me think you don't really want to discuss what you keep asking. IF you can dispute anything you've been furnished, then please do so. Otherwise, I believe we can safely assume you cannot.
     
  14. Think for myself

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    Really? Name a single policy of his that has lead to job growth in Texas.


    Nothing has been furnished except a bunch of crap from Perry's own self fan website. You and SMW have not a single time in this thread, not a single time, not once, have said what these great accomplishments of Perry's are.

    You, JP, have not said it. You and your friend have not said it. Please do not pretend like you have then get indignant when the fact that you haven't is pointed out to you. Sitting there and claiming you have will not change the reality that you have not.
     
  15. The12thMan

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    Barack once said that "the last thing you want to do" during a recession is raise taxes. He said it sucks resources out of the private sector. He was right. His constant requests for tax rate hikes is one of the main reasons the economy is not rebounding. The other reason is the debt he amassed.

    One of the main things that has kept Texas from hurting as badly as the rest of the country is Perry's willingness to leave resources in the private sector where they belong. Another thing is the lawsuit against obamacare. Not just the lawsuit, but the attitude Perry has that means that he will not let Barack have his unconstitutional way with Texas without a fight.
     
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    Texas jobs are the result of a booming oilfield. Without the drilling boom, Texas would be in no better shape than anywhere else. Even Perry couldn't mess that up. Yet
     
  17. Think for myself

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    I disagree. Perry clearly increased the size of the public sector.

    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...vernment-jobs-led-to-perrys-economic-boom.php

    I am not sure what resources you are referring to. If it is oil, then why would a state take control of that?


    Obamacare is still on. How has that improved the economy in Texas?
     
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    The latest report from Texas' State Comptroller about the state of our economy here:

    Updated October 7, 2011

    Comptroller’s Economic Outlook

    Job growth, sales tax collections – both from business and consumer purchases – as well as automobile sales, signal that the Texas economy has emerged from the recent recession.

    Another indicator that the state’s economy has been comparatively healthy was the U.S. Bureau of the Census report that Texas added more people (nearly 4.3 million) than any other state between the census counts of 2000 and 2010. (Gov. Perry has been our governor almost that entire time, btw)

    Through August 2011, 94 percent of the total jobs shed by employers during Texas’ shorter recession have already been recovered as our economy has rebounded more quickly than the U.S. as a whole. Nationally, only 22 percent of recession-hit jobs have been recovered. Texas’ 10 consecutive months of job growth was interrupted in August 2011 when employment contracted slightly by 1,300 positions. This decrease in August is similar to the U.S. employment situation in August where no changes in payroll jobs were reported from July to August.

    Texas and the nation returned to economic growth in 2010, with the nation increasing its real Gross Domestic Product by 3.0 percent and Texas increasing its real Gross State Product a similar 2.8 percent, with Texas’ economy not affected as severely by the recession as the nation as a whole.
    Jobs

    • The U.S. gained 103,000 nonfarm jobs in September 2011 compared to August 2011. The U.S. unemployment rate remained unchanged at 9.1 percent for September 2011.
    • Texas’ August 2011 unemployment rate was 8.5 percent, up from 8.4 percent in July.
    • Texas total nonfarm employment decreased by 1,300 jobs from July to August. Between August 2010 and August 2011, Texas gained 253,200 jobs.
    • The Texas unemployment rate has been at or below the national rate for 56 consecutive months.
    Housing

    • Thus far, Texas has weathered the national real estate crunch without significant damage to property values.
    • A total of 6,004 building permits for single-family homes were issued in August 2011. In the 12 months ending in August 2011, 59,321 permits were issued, 11 percent fewer than one year ago.
    • There were 3,656 multi-family building permits issued in August 2011, an 87 percent increase from August 2010. During the 12 months ending in August 2011, 26,193 permits were issued, 63 percent more than one year ago.
    • In August 2011, sales of existing single-family homes increased by 10 percent from the previous month, to a total of 21,246. August 2011 home sales were 24 percent higher than in August 2010.
    • In Texas, the median price for existing single-family homes increased by 0.1 percent from August 2010 to August 2011.
    • In August 2011, the Texas foreclosure rate was one in every 958 mortgages.
    • This was substantially better than Nevada’s one in 118, California’s one in 226, Arizona’s one in 248, and Utah’s one in 450.
    Consumer Confidence Index

    • U.S. consumer confidence increased by 0.4 percent from August 2011 to September 2011, rising from 45.2 to 45.4. The confidence index now stands 6.6 percent lower than one year ago.
    • The Texas region’s consumer confidence index decreased 4.9 percent from August 2011 to September 2011, falling from 71.6 to 68.1 and is now up 0.1 percent from its level one year ago.
    Oil and Natural Gas

    • Natural gas and oil production tax collections combined were 49 percent higher for fiscal year 2011 compared to fiscal year 2010.
    • By contrast, fiscal 2010 oil and natural gas production tax collections combined were 24 percent lower than collections in 2009.
    • After reaching a 2008 summer high closing price of $145.29 and falling to a low of $33.98 during February 2009, crude oil futures reached a settled price of $82.59 on October 6, 2011.
    • Similarly, natural gas futures prices have followed a similar path reaching a summer 2008 high of $13.58 and then falling to a Sept. 3, 2009 low of $2.51. Prices closed at $3.60 on October 6, 2011.
    Taxes

    • Texas sales tax receipts for August 2011 were 11.9 percent higher than for August 2010.
    • For fiscal 2010, state sales tax receipts were down 6.6 percent from fiscal 2009, however sales tax collections have increased for 18 consecutive months, boosted by strong business spending in the oil and gas and manufacturing sectors. Retail sales also have improved, contributing to a 9.4 percent increase in sales tax receipts for fiscal 2011.
    • Texas motor vehicle sales tax collections for September 2011 were 13.6 percent higher than those for September 2010.
    • The nationwide average core transaction price for a new car or truck during the first 15 days of September 2011 rose 9.6 percent to $29,852 from the first 15 days of September 2010.
    • For the first 15 days of September 2011, total national new auto sales were 497,499 units, up 4.1 percent compared to first 15 days of September 2010.
    • Nationally, leases accounted for 27.1 percent of all new vehicle sales for the first 15 days of September 2011, an increase of 0.6 percentage points from September 2010.
    Stimulus Package

    • In Texas, an estimated $18 billion in federal stimulus money is flowing to state and local governments. The Comptroller’s office is tracking the $14.3 billion that comes through the state Treasury. The Comptroller’s analysis is ongoing. For the latest information, visit our ARRA Web site, A Texas Eye on the Dollars.
    http://www.texasahead.org/economy/outlook.html

    "Dallas-Fort Worth and the three other major Texas markets registered the nation’s strongest employment gains during the past five years, according to figures released Wednesday morning by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

    Dallas came in No. 2, with 71,300 private-sector jobs created between June 2005 and June 2010. It follows No. 1-ranked Houston, which gained 129,800 private-sector jobs. Austin came in third, with 56,100 new private-sector jobs; San Antonio ranked No. 4, with a gain of 32,600 private-sector jobs."

    These were private-sector jobs; not gov't jobs. All 5 years Gov Perry was our Governor. And long before any Stimulus money came our way.
    http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/stories/2010/07/26/daily25.html
     
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    Of course they are. Perry had the fortune of being in the right place at the right time. Skyrocketing oil prices, horizontal shale drilling, and fracture drilling.

    None of it had anything to do with Perry.
     
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    So what was the policy or accomplishment of Perry that had to do with that?

    Seems to me not a single person is capable of stating that. You lavish praise on the guy yet your post failures to even attempt to articulate why.
     
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    • That is hilarious.

      These are private sector jobs, but we got a whole lot of federal money.
     
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    Well, TFM, Perry is the leader of our state; he's the top guy; the Governor. Now if you want to keep insisting he didn't have a thing to do with the jobs and good news coming out of Texas over the past 10 years, then that is YOUR problem; not mine. If you want to continue ignoring anything furnished you and pretending it wasn't even furnished to you, that is YOUR problem; not mine.

    Now, I'm through arguing with you over nothing....because it became very clear quite some time ago, you have no interest in really discussing or debating anything here.

    Moving on........
     
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    You never did state what is was that Perry did that made Texas the booming jobs state that it is. You posted a bunch of braggadocio furnished by the Perry camp.

    To date no one seems to be able to attribute anything to Perry that has contributed to the current jobs in Texas.

    Okay.

    This is a challenge you never should have taken on. I don't ask questions like this unless I already know the answer.
     
  24. JP5

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    Tsk, tsk, tsk. Shame on you.....pulling out only a small part of what I said there, trying to make it look like it went with something else. Here's the WHOLE portion on those private-sector jobs AGAIN for ya!!

    "Dallas came in No. 2, with 71,300 private-sector jobs created between June 2005 and June 2010. It follows No. 1-ranked Houston, which gained 129,800 private-sector jobs. Austin came in third, with 56,100 new private-sector jobs; San Antonio ranked No. 4, with a gain of 32,600 private-sector jobs."

    These were private-sector jobs; not gov't jobs. All 5 years Gov Perry was our Governor. And long before any Stimulus money came our way."

    Now....please STOP being disengenuous here. IF you can dispute anything our State Comptroller says here, then feel free. Otherwise, we can all assume you don't because you can't.
     
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    So you are not moving on?

    Okay. What was the policy implemented by Perry that would cause this job growth? To do you still have not said. As far as I can tell, he is being praised for being elected and sitting there.

    I have never said that Texas does not have a lower unemployment rate than most states. I simply asked what Perry has to do with it.

    Actually, I have been blatantly honest and accurate, coupled with level headed and perfectly fair. There really is no need to impugn my fine character.
     

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