The 9/11 Attacks: Pardon Me But This Is Just Absolute Comedy!

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  1. Quantumhead

    Quantumhead New Member

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    NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/debunking-911-myths-world-trade-center

    NIST's findings do not support the “pancake theory” of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC.

    http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/faqs_wtctowers.cfm

    That's just hilarious. Or at least it would be if we weren't talking about a tragedy.

    Any thoughts? That's a pretty shocking contradiction. It's almost right up there with releasing a public statement that you didn't find any evidence explosives were used, and then being forced to release another one two months later that you didn't check for any evidence that explosives were used.

    Absolute, utter comedy.
     
  2. cjm2003ca

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    the weight of the floors is what caused the collapse of of the building towards the center..i tried to get koko an idea of the weight of each floor but he gave up trying to figure out the total weight of each floor and the above floors involved..i guess math was too hard for him to understand
     
  3. Quantumhead

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    Lmao. Military grade TH3 is what caused the collapse of the building towards the centre, buddy.

    Oh it's quite easy. The buildings weighed half a million tons each, so divide that by 110. Now you just need to learn Newton's third law and you'll be all set to know what in the hell you're talking about. Resistance to gravity is accumulative, not singular. You don't calculate the weight of a compromised mass against each individual floor at a time because that contradicts the laws of physics. And the laws of maths, because it proposes that 93 x 1 (floors) < 1 x 93 (floors).
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course you have proof of that right?
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    As TH3 is a very quiet decimator, how the hell did they install all of it without being noticed!!!!!

    ill never understand the argument that it was a controlled demolition, meanwhile those claiming it ignore the facts about controlled demo and the sounds it produces. If you look at any controlled demo on video it is very clear and obvious that it was a controlled demo, even on buildings much much smaller than the WTC its more than obvious.

    But let me guess you are going to show us a video with maybe a tiny light going off that could be nothing but a reflection or part of the fire caused by the crash, and you are going to say there is a faint sound of explosion.......in which for a building the size of the WTC towers the explosions would not be faint in any way at all, they would be extremely obvious and heard throughout the whole city and everyone would be claiming they had heard it. Oh wait let me guess, the government has a special ray weapon that can shut off peoples hearing and during the live feed they got the media to edit the sounds so we couldnt truly hear everything right?
     
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    This needs to be moved to the loony bin section.
     
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    Paint chips don't melt steel beams.
     
  8. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    Pathetic dismissal. Instead of just making a TOS violating metapost, how about addressing the OP? Oh, yeah, it's impossible to refute, isn't it?
     
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    Waste of bandwidth is what it is.
     
  10. Quantumhead

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    Yeah, you got nothing. The OP is bulletproof.
     
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    9. Weren't the puffs of smoke that were seen, as the collapse of each WTC tower starts, evidence of controlled demolition explosions?
    No. As stated in Section 6.14.4 of NIST NCSTAR 1, the falling mass of the building compressed the air ahead of it&#8212;much like the action of a piston&#8212;forcing smoke and debris out the windows as the stories below failed sequentially.
    These puffs were observed at many locations as the towers collapsed. In all cases, they had the appearance of jets of gas being pushed from the building through windows or between columns on the mechanical floors. Such jets are expected since the air inside the building is compressed as the tower falls and must flow somewhere as the pressure builds. It is significant that similar &#8220;puffs&#8221; were observed numerous times on the fire floors in both towers prior to their collapses, perhaps due to falling walls or portions of a floor. Puffs from WTC 1 were even observed when WTC 2 was struck by the aircraft. These observations confirm that even minor overpressures were transmitted through the towers and forced smoke and debris from the building.

    From your link.....whoops.
     
  13. Quantumhead

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    So in other words, the floors pancaked, right?

    Lmfao.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of the last remaining Truthers! I didnt realize any still existed. However bereft of objective logic that your argument may be, I just find it adorable.
     
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  16. Quantumhead

    Quantumhead New Member

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    Ah, I see. The old, "give me proof so I can refuse to acknowledge it" line. Nice.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I wasn't aware that I had constructed an argument. Please be so kind as to show me where in the OP I make an argument. I was under the impression that I merely pointed out a couple of glaring and hilarious contradictions.
     
  17. Brother Jonathan

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    The comedy comes from the debunkers of truth. NIST actually makes the claim, as do some debunkers, that Newton's third law of motion no longer applies to our physical world. :lol: That's some real comedy there. :lol:

    However, it is very sad comedy because so many people lost their lives over the tragedy and the wars that followed. 9/11 was a serious crime. Those responsible for it should face trial.
     
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    I'm getting the feeling there's a distinction between your two selected quotations that's presently going over your head.

    NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder tells PM. Those clouds of dust may create the impression of a controlled demolition, Sunder adds, "but it is the floor pancaking that leads to that perception."

    ...

    NIST's findings do not support the &#8220;pancake theory&#8221; of collapse, which is premised on a progressive failure of the floor systems in the WTC.


    The second quotation speaks specifically of how the structure of each building failed, i.e. the exact mechanics of the collapse, whereas the first quotation is simply mentioning a behavior exhibited by the floors during the collapse, namely their pancaking.

    Ah yes, here we go:

    http://www.debunking911.com/collapse.htm
    The NIST and "Pancaking"

    The massive weight easily caused a "Pancaking" effect but unlike the original hypothesis, the pancaking didn't cause the collapse. It was a result of the collapse.
     
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    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cmon now. YOU know the Truther argument. I know the Truther argument. We ALL know the Truther argument. Are you denying that you are a Truther?
     
  20. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    What are you laughing at? Your own link showed what the puffs were. Truthers are unable to grasp reality. It is a saddness.
     
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    Their conclusion is stunningly inconclusive, basically.

    IS THERE NANOTHERMITE IN THE DUST/RUBBLE THAT USED TO BE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER?

    And the answer...is a resounding "MAYBE? UHHH AT LEAST WE THINK IT COULD BE."
     
  22. Brother Jonathan

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    Just more comedy. Truthers seek the truth while liars debunk the truth. Pretty funny. It would be really funny if it weren't so sad.
     
  23. Quantumhead

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    Really? Because I'm getting a feeling that you're not a particularly truthful person.

    No, the second quotation claims that the pancake theory sold to the entire world in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 is false. It then goes on to claim that systematic ejection of materials from the buildings can be explained by the floors systematically failing (i.e. "pancaking"). It couldn't be more of a blatant contradiction if it tried. This is not good propaganda.

    Yeah, I'm not even reading your bunk link, pal. Sorry.
     
  24. Quantumhead

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    I'm laughing because you responded to a quote claiming the floors didn't pancake, with another quote from the same FAQ claiming the floors did pancake.

    I'd ask you if you get it, but it's very clear that you do not.
     
  25. Durandal

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    Pancaking was present in the collapse. It just wasn't the cause of the collapse. More from the "bunk" you refuse to read since it disagrees with your chosen beliefs:

    Update:

    Conspiracy theorists are taking the above out of context in an effort to mislead readers into thinking the NIST and I are in disagreement. We are not. As I mentioned above, the pancaking happened AFTER the building was on it's [sic] way down and therefore NOT part of the NIST investigation. The NIST only studied the collapse until "Global collapse was inevitable". Any conspiracy theorist that tells you the NIST said the building NEVER pancaked is lying. The building didn't pancake CAUSING the collapse but evidence is strong the building pancaked AFTER the collapse was "inevitable".
     

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