The 9/11 Attacks: Pardon Me But This Is Just Absolute Comedy!

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    What a stupid thing to say. It is no longer resisting the forces that had acted upon it for decades, and was losing. The brackets were ALL subjected to unexpected stresses on the fire floors.
     
  2. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    again so what
     
  3. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    You wanted to know where all the tension was in the trusses pulling on the walls. I'm pointing it out to you.
    Are you malnourished? You suddenly seem lethargic.
     
  4. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    1000F is the typical temperature of an office fire in full flash-over.

    NIST could only identify those areas that approached that temperature by the condition of any paint residues that were not burned away completely. (I recall 800 F the temperature beyond which insufficient paint remained.)

    A firearm recovered in a house that reached such temperatures is considered a total lose due to heat damage.

    Steel gets (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up in a fire if it is not protected.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    no I didnt, I told you the mounts were not over stressed, you wanted to know that and now you apparently know
     
  6. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UNBC in the CALT sent Senator McNallister a memo about the GINT. Of course, this is nonsense because he didn't get out of the cockadoodie car!!!
     
  7. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I dont want typical I want actual.

    well then by your standards the north tower should have been deemed a total loss in 75 when 3 floors burned out of control around the 11th floor.

    Oh wait it wasnt condemned as a total loss that right, they just put out the fire checked the steel and said a-o-k lets roll

    seems the experts disagree with you.
     
  8. EggKiller

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    Did you fail to look at graph page 91? It clearly shows the 5/8" bolt and support turning red from shear stress. Pretty simple stuff. I'm surprised you never noticed it.
     
  9. EggKiller

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    You must be getting nappy from your big hotel dinner. We'll try back later when you can focus better.
    We made a little progress today, now get some rest.
     
  10. Kokomojojo

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    no it does not clearly show it, it is a low res picture lol

    you are confusing a side view drawing with the stress analysis drawing. there is no violet level of strees, it goes orange then red and there is no excess stress on the mounts.
     
  11. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    if you call your making progress 1 step forward 3 steps backwards I guess you did
     
  12. leftysergeant

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    What has that to do with what happened in 2001?

    The steel was protected by a sprayed-on cementic coating rated to protect it from such temperatures for about two hours.

    That coating was destroyed over most of the impacted areas in 2001. You can see that from the fact that those few shots that got a look inside the structures showed large expanses of RED-painted surfaces. This is steel that has been stripped of insulation right down to the primer paint.

    Do try to keep up.
     
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    pictures or it didnt happen!

    there was only so much steel that could have had insulation removed, that said how did all the rest of the steel get overheated and fail at approximately the same exact time that the alleged damaged steel got overheated such that the result was global symmetric collapse, especially since we can see there are no fires or damage what so ever on the other side of the building?

    You claim to be a fireman then you know full well that the only possible way anything can fall straight down is if the full array of supports are removed at the same time.

    there was no fires here so do explain! LOL

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  14. leftysergeant

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    There is such an enormous pile of wrong in all of that twaddle that it boggles the mind. Your photographs here are useless because they are not of the time of collapse. Nobody who knows a thing about fire fighting thinks that the fires were going out. That is just plain stupid. The fires were hot enough to melt at least aluminum, maybe copper and lead, and raise them to an incandescent temperature, to the point that glowing metal flowed out from the battery banks providing backup power for Fuji Bank in the south tower just before collapse. Do pay attention.

    True enough, and the closest that you have ever made to a fully true statement that I have seen.

    Trouble of it is, that it did not happen. NOTHING fell straight down. The bottom part of the top block of the south tower can be seen scotching slightly toward the camera before the fist puff of drywall is expressed from the failing floors. It slipped off the supporting columns. There is nothing mysterious here.

    Further more, that crap about removing support is just that, crap. There was always resistance throughout the collapse. That is why that mushroom keeps getting bigger and flowing off over the sides. The bottom part of the building is just not getting out of the way. This should not be hard even for a child to comprehend.

    You are outside your area of expertise. Everybody but your movement saw fires. FDNY saw fires. You are calling FDNY a den of liars. SHAME ON YOU.
     
  15. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so your fellow OSHugger logically yours is a liar is that what you are saying since LY posted a high speed video clip and we could all see one fire after another go out.

    I am telling you to lay off the dablunder koolaid. It looks really bad for people when they make claims that are clearly contradicted by the evidence.

    What? Battery banks? cite the floor plan and floor they were on. and by the way lead is silver when its melted. LOL just shot yourself in the foot again.


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    yeh it did it fell straight down. that means it did not tip over, whats so hard about that?


    Huh? you mean before it was all blown to hell

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    since its unlikely that anyone here is capable of dazzling me with their brilliance or baffling me with their bull(*)(*)(*)(*) at least make those stories a bit more entertaining.

    yep they blew er all to hell in front of everyone and blamed the muslims this time.

    there was only so much steel that could have had insulation removed, that said how did all the rest of the steel get overheated and fail at approximately the same exact time that the alleged damaged steel got overheated such that the result was global symmetric collapse, especially since we can see there are no fires or damage what so ever on the other side of the building?

    still waiting for your explanation how those good columns were over heated at the same time as the ones without insulation.

    so stop dodging and running off on tangents
     
  16. EggKiller

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    I can heat lead cherry red inside my woodstove so I'm not sure what your point was .

    The lower steal succumbed to the falling weight of the floors above. Why is that difficult to understand?
     
  17. Brother Jonathan

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    Pure comedy. Another debunker of truth claiming Newton's third law of motion was suspended on 9/11. :lol:
     
  18. EggKiller

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    Care,to explain Newton's third law to me and it's relevance? Thanks in advance.
     
  19. Quantumhead

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    Because it is untrue, because it contradicts the basic laws of physics, and because your spelling is atrocious.
     
  20. Quantumhead

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    Why are you asking things you can learn from using Google?
     
  21. Brother Jonathan

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    Absolute comedy. You are making the claim that oxygen starved fires on 9/11 were hot enough to melt aluminum (1200°F), maybe copper (1900°F) and lead (600°F), and raise them to an incandescent (glowing) temperature... bla bla bla...

    Since the jet fuel burned rapidly upon impact, exactly what fuel was causing so much intense heat? Fire retardant carpet & drapes? Desks? One hour fire rated doors? Steel melts at (2500°F).

    Absolute comedy coming from the debunkers of truth. :lol:
     
  22. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    Maybe my spelling caused the towers to collapse. Sorry America.

    What law of physics dictates a moving force cannot act upon a stationary force?
     
  23. Brother Jonathan

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    It is over your head or you would have never posted that crap. Here is a link anyway for others who can understand it and are interested.
    Newton's Law of Motion.

    - - - Updated - - -

    That would the 5th law of Fizix.
     
  24. Quantumhead

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    A force cannot move if it is at rest on a stationary force. Are you daft, lad?
     
  25. EggKiller

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    Are you guys for real? Once the supports give way it's no longer at rest. That applies even if explosives were used. Are you trying to eliminate the law of gravity?
     

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