The American people had enough of far-left policies being shoved down their throats

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    We didn’t steal this land anymore than the people whom we “stole” it from did.
     
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    Let’s assume we have a mass migration of muslims come over here enough to swing the elections. Would you still feel the same way when they start voting against gay rights, abortions, freedoms and start trying to institute shariah law into our legal system like they’ve done in France and Britain while not even being citizens of this country?
     
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    I'd get on the horn and work with my party to persuade Muslims we're better for them than Repubs are.

    Oops, I think we already did that.

    America is not a small country like France or Britain, so I don't accept comparisons to them.

    Moreover, no one is recommending mass migration.
     
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    That’s not the point. The point is if a group of people who had the power to swing elections but were not citizens and held a position completely antithetical to the American way of life, should they be allowed to influence ANY election?
     
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    OMG bro! :roll:
     
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    Your a prime example of what is wrong with the Democrats. Many 16 year olds hasn't enough sense to put a Tide Pod in his mouth and try and eat it. I don't blame you for not commenting on the others. Seems like none of you Liberals want to give your opinions on them. I'm sure it's because they are to stupid to even believe someone would come up with the ideas they have. But being good Liberals, you'll go along with any and every stupid idea they come up with and never disagree with them. Party First
     
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    What if aliens swoop down and take over?

    Yours is as about as wild of a 'what if' as the above question.

    In fact, I think it is more likely to be true than your question. So, answer it, please.

    Hah!
     
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    That is all I saw, now are you going to answer my question or not?
     
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    Have you ever wondered how we got into the situation we are in now? It didn't start with Reagan and trade with Canada. It started with Kennedy/Johnson allowing Japan to screw all over us. Having laws that wouldn't allow us to compete. Allowing them to close their markets to us, or make it impossible to get our products to their markets, while we threw ours wide open. Here is some good reading material for you. If you don't want to read it all, just scroll down to the part where it said it started with the television industry and keep reading down to other industries we lost. Up to then, Japan didn't know how to make televisions. https://users.monash.edu/~jwb/japanyes.txt
     
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    Why am I not surprised.. And I really should have to seeing how you couldn't answer mine even when you were provided with a quote of the bill LMFAO :wierdface:
     
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    Patricio Da Silva, We have let China screw all over us too. Require Chinese companies to join up with American companies that move there. Stay long enough to get the plans to the American product, then break off and make that product on their own and under cut the price of the American product.
     
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    Fake News. I'm native born.
    Name ten governments, in existence today, that have survived as long as ours.
    The dripping hatred that some of the Left has for Americans is part of what is behind the completely rational rejection of the Left by Americans.

    When we settled here it was largely unpopulated and we displaced what relatively few folks there were here, just as they displaced folks when they moved in. But I love the theocratic righteousness of your tone. Direct me to your posts decrying the Turks war of conquest for the nation now called "Turkey" that they invaded and secured.
    Who cares? If they aren't citizens, we don't recognise the right you just made up and if you want to grant it to them, you can fund your own elections without our funding if our elected Legislature passes this proposed law.
     
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    Spain stole almost all of Central and South America. Yet Mexico not only requires you to have a voter ID, but it has to have finger prints on it. Your not allowed to work in Mexico unless it's a job a Mexican can't do. If you do work in Mexico, you have to show your financially independent, you have to show a clean police record and get no help from the government. All debts must be paid when you leave Mexico. Your not even allow to protest against the government in Mexico. Can't own land close to the ocean. If your caught twice sneaking into Mexico, you can get up to 5 years in prison.
     
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    The stupidity of the Democratic Party.

    To live in Mexico, you must show you have a clean police record. Your not allow to work there unless you can do the job that a Mexican can't do. If your caught sneaking into Mexico twice, you can get up to 5 years in prison. A bill the Democrats are trying to pass, requires any illegal person committing a crime in the US and got a sent to jail for 5 years or less and been deported must be brought back and the government has to pay transportation cost. No penalty no matter how many times your caught sneaking in. (The New Way Forward ACT) At least 44 Democrats have already signed onto this bill but it hasn't yet enough votes to pass yet.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tuc...under-bill-aoc-and-other-house-democrats-back
     
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    Well growing up I often heard that wisdom comes with age. With age I've learned it's not true for most people. A smart and informed 16 year old who would actually bother to vote (the dumb ones mostly would not) is going to make better policy-related decisions than the average 65 year old voter who doesn't have a job or kids to make it harder for them to vote under republican rules, and is stuck in the last century in mindset. But intelligence isn't the main moral issue, it's the fact that the young are taxed without representation if they have jobs. I did.

    The having non-citizens vote is mostly a lie by the right. The left as a group doesn't want that.

    I'm not sure where the left as a whole is on the next issue, but I don't think having a felony record is enough justification to take away somebody's voting rights. Mass murderer may be an extreme example, but there's too few of them to really matter. Republicans should understand this with their persecution complex mindset. Should we make assault rifle possession a felony and take away your voting rights like we did for crack cocaine against black people?
     
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    Kids are being brain washed in school. Most don't know anything about the issues and what little they pay in, most don't earn enough to pay any taxes. As for illegals voting,

    1. www.truthandaction.org › nancy-pelosi-illegalNancy Pelosi Calls for Illegal Immigrants to be Granted the ...
      Nancy Pelosi Calls for Illegal Immigrants to be Granted the Right to Vote. The Dems are losing their base and their leaders are panicking. At a news conference on voting rights with Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas) in Austin, Texas on Tuesday, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said illegal immigrants “make America more American,” and we should not be “suppressing the vote of our newcomers to America.”.

    2. townhall.com › tipsheet › bethbaumannUm, What? Pelosi Tries To Argue Illegals Should Be Able to ...
      One of the issues that came up was whether or not "new immigrants" – translation: illegal aliens should be allowed to vote. Of course, we know where Pelosi (and her Democratic caucus) stands on...

    3. conservativefiringline.com › pelosis-slip-of-thePelosi's Slip of the Tongue, Democrats Vote For Illegal ...
      What we knew all along has been spoken out loud by Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi: “We shouldn’t be suppressing the votes of illegals. newcomers to America.”. Way to rename illegals as

    Besides that,if illegals are allowed to vote in just local city and state elections, they would be able to push and vote on bills that give them more local assistance, they can't get now.
     
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    So, when she says newcomers, does she literally mean illegal aliens? Because, I don't know. How do you know for sure? She might mean new citizens.

    Either way; she's an idiot, and if that is what she literally means, it's an un-American attitude.
     
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    There is not much in the way of critical thought happening in the 16 year old mind as it is - but add the unseemly influence of ideology and they're about as trustworthy as a raving Christian Fundamentalist hopped up on Jesus.
     
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    You mean the 10 hrs a week they put in at the fast food joint for fun money?
     
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    Do you expect to be able to vote in Sweden's elections? How about Malaysia's?

    Foreign Nationals should NEVER have voting rights in someone else's nation. If they agree to pay taxes in that nation, they have done so knowing it does not magically remove their Foreign National status.
     
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    No, if you look at the disparity of the gap between wages and superrich earnings, the gap really started happening when the principle of neoliberalism began, in full force, under Reagan. Sure, there were other factors in play long before this that lead to other issues, but that's not what I'm talking about.

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    I didn't see it. I have no idea what you are talking about.

    If you don't want to clarify what, which, of course, you don't, because you'd rather make hay out of something
    I missed ( if I did, indeed, miss it, and I'm not convinced on that point) then we'll end this conversation.
     
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    We get it, you hate immigrants, and you will concoct any number of arbitrary arguments to justify it.

    If they aren't citizens, we could easily make them citizens, but, of course, you hate immigrants, so you won't want to do that.
     
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    I can't speak for other nations. If you want to rant about Mexico, you should start a thread, because Mexico isn't under debate.
     

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