The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

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  1. Jack Hays

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    The SCOTUS achievement is Mitch McConnell's.
     
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    He got them through but Trump nominated them in the first place.
     
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    Trump took the list the Federalist Society gave him. Mitch managed that list.
     
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    Correct. That's how being president works. He took recommendations he trusted and put them forward. Who would Hillary have nominated?

    And Trump overturned Obama's original EPA fuel economy standards, taking his sweet time to propose and implement more rational standards. Biden has now proposed his (he has to wait 5 years before new standards can go into effect) which go into effect in 2027 culminating in 2032 and requiring 60% of light duty vehicles (up to F350s) sold to be EVs and in a first, 30% of heavy duty vehicles (greater than 14,000 lbs GVWR- F450 and up) to be EVs.

    Not only did Trump seat the Supreme Court that will break the back of this nonsense, he bought time to keep it from crushing the automotive industry and our economy before they could.

    He deserves credit for that.
     
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    I do not deny that Trump did some good things, but on balance he was too destructive for my taste.
     
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    Fair enough my friend.
     
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    They seem to have omitted the laws banning direct sales in many states, so that EV makers can't sell their cars because they have no franchise dealership network.
    Imagine for a moment that your neighbor is a superb carpenter and has made the perfect chair and you want to buy it, but you can't ask the price and you can't even sit in the chair. The only way to buy it it to have it shipped to a franchised dealer who will allow you to sit on it and will add a substantial profit to the sale, because they have a monopoly which they fight tooth and nail to keep.
    Tesla wanted to sell cars here in New Mexico but the dealership association stopped him....until he negotiated with the local tribes and set up shop on tribal land where the law doesn't apply. And the dealers association just kept on crying "It's not fair"
    https://fee.org/articles/tesla-dodg...-new-store-and-service-center-on-tribal-land/
    Despite building a huge factory to make Tesla's in Texas to actually buy one it has to be put on a trailer, taken out of state to be registered then taken back to Texas to be re registered as a used car.
    https://texasview.org/why-you-cant-buy-a-tesla-in-texas/
    No surprise that New Mexico and Texas are big producers of oil, and the rise of EV's threatens their profits, even to the point of politicians making themselves look even more stupid in protecting their political campaign donors.
    https://www.currentargus.com/story/...egislature-house-representatives/69832949007/
    Get rid of that nonsense and EV sales will improve.
     
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    The collision with reality is now visible on the horizon.
    The Auto Industry In Jonestown
    May 05, 2023/ Francis Menton

    • The notorious events in Jonestown took place so long ago that most readers probably don’t have personal memory of them.

    • In November 1978, in the jungles of Guyana, under the powerful spell of a religious cult with a charismatic leader, and of an all-embracing groupthink, some 900 people somehow agreed to participate in a mass suicide. It was a shocking instance of the kind of collective insanity to which humans can be susceptible.
    • You might think that the Jonestown massacre was a uniquely extreme example of such a mass psychosis, perhaps attributable largely to unusually susceptible subjects or to the isolated location. Surely our best and brightest leaders of government and business would never fall prey to such collective craziness.

    • If you think that, then perhaps you should look at what is currently going on in the automotive sector of the economy.
    READ MORE
     
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    Does 500kg matter? Heavy EV cars may break bridges and car parks
    By Jo Nova
    [​IMG]Just another catch on the road to Green Heaven. EV’s are heavier than petrol cars.

    Where a full tank of gas or fuel is 70kg, a full tank of battery (or an empty one) weighs half a ton, or in the Tesla Model Y league — 771kg. That’s more than a whole Toyota Corolla weighed in 1967 (just 690kg). Now a Tesla Model X weighs 2,500kg and some of the newer EV’s weigh 4,000 kg.

    That poses a problem for many structures that were designed with normal cars in mind. The odd EV is fine, but if the whole national fleet starts to become electric, suddenly loads on 50 year old bridges and shopping centre carparks are beyond the expected bounds. The infrastructure may have been designed when a normal car was just a 1970’s corolla. . . .
     
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    No the Federalist society selected them
     
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    Both parties use affinity groups to vet their possible court nominees. It's SOP.
     
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    And why does that factoid matter?

    Trump nominated them as a President is supposed to do and the Congress confirmed them.
     
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    The Federalist society has no governmental power and can’t select anyone for anything.
     
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    Want to make a bet?
    https://www.npr.org/2018/06/28/6244...ty-and-how-does-it-affect-supreme-court-picks

    and here is Leonard Leo with Clary and Harlan
    upload_2023-5-21_13-49-3.jpeg

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/02/leonard-leo-federalist-society-00094761
     
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