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The Answer To Our Problems, EV's

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by joyce martino, Jul 9, 2022.

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Oct 19, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Oct 27, 2022
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Nov 6, 2022
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Nov 7, 2022
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Nov 17, 2022
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  6. Pieces of Malarkey

    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    And then just surfing the web I ran across this jewel:

    https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla...-event-scheduled-for-December-1.668564.0.html

    I brought up the nonsense of heavy-duty electric trucks a little time backand was essentially told I must not know what I'm talking about, but finally here's some data. Just focusing on the issues of the trucks themselves and overlooking the absurd infrastructure expanse needed to make this silliness work- the new Tesla semi-truck has a range (when it's sunny and warm at least) of only 500 miles. And then it takes- at best- 30 minutes to get back to 70% charge. And that's at a top rated GVW of 82,000 lbs. And who knows how that can concievably work off road.

    A current diesel rig with a couple 100 gallon tanks (which a pretty small relatively) getting 7-8 miles a gallon will have a range between refuelings of somewhere in the nieghborhood of 3 times that. And the GCWR can be configured to pretty close to a quarter million pounds for dragging truckloads of timber out of the mountains on unpaved logging roads.

    What were these people thinking?
     
    Pieces of Malarkey, Nov 17, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Nov 21, 2022
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    Plus the estimates of the driven miles for an EV to actually become “CO2 neutral” are ~ 70,000 miles.
     
    AFM, Dec 7, 2022
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    bringiton, Dec 7, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Dec 9, 2022
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    In 2014 federal ev subsidies were ~ $725M. Total federal subsidies to date might be ~ $10B. And now Biden proposed an additional $5B over 5 years to create a network of charging stations.

    All for zero effect on global warming produced by increasing atmospheric CO2 concentration (if you believe in that narrative).
     
    AFM, Dec 9, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Dec 12, 2022
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    Bad buses:
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    Have EV buses been beneficial? Depends on your point of view. From a driver view-point I give them a thumbs down. The extra stress placed on drivers adds to an…
     
    Jack Hays, Dec 13, 2022
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    Jack Hays, Dec 15, 2022
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    How do they place stress on drivers?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 16, 2022
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    "Range is an issue, and range anxiety is very real. Driving a diesel and setting out for the day with a full tank of fuel means never having to worry. With an EV, after 60Km (around 40 miles), a recharge is really needed. Having to recharge the bus takes time out of my rest break – I lose at least 10 minutes that I would otherwise spend relaxing with a cuppa and stretching my legs on a fine day."
     
    Jack Hays, Dec 16, 2022
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    That answer was in the article you didn't read.
     
    Sunsettommy, Dec 16, 2022
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  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    WHAT article?
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 16, 2022
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    So one driver's coffee is worth 6 more hurricanes on the Gulf Coast every year? Yeh, those 40,000 displaced will just have to suck it up
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 16, 2022
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    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 16, 2022
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    There is zero (0) credible empirical evidence of any such relationship.
     
    bringiton, Dec 16, 2022
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  22. Pieces of Malarkey

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    And if there were, do you think Obama would really be stupid enough to buy ocean front property in both Martha's Vineyard and Hawaii?
     
    Pieces of Malarkey, Dec 16, 2022
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, but there is of a whole fleet of buses being run on Diesel rather than electric.

    Vehicles can be pulled into automated docking stations and charged while the driver is on his break
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Dec 16, 2022
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    Hurricanes are decreasing in frequency.
     
    Jack Hays, Dec 16, 2022
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    It's well explained in the link.
     
    Jack Hays, Dec 16, 2022
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