The ark and a world wide flood.

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  1. FreshAir

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    I couldn't find the exact numbers but the list of animals that hibernate is extinsive.

    http://m.wisegeek.com/which-animals-hibernate.htm

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    They could've been there before the flood and got buried.
     
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    Floods leave a footprint.. There are civilizations all over the globe that were never flooded.. Egypt, Greece, China, the Arabian peninsula, all over South and Central America.. Australia and New Zealand.

    No one should have to park their brains at the door to be a Christian.
     
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    A lot of the places you mentioned are deserts which even evolutionists will say that they're probably acient sea beds. As for the other places do they have sediments?
    I agree.
     
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    Full credit for your ingenuity
     
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    Saudi Arabia was never a sea bed.. but 10,000 years ago it was a well watered savanna. Geologists have taken core samples all over Arabia.. There is no flood sediment.
     
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    To meet a scientific standard one has to have a some point real research. That means a stated hypothesis which is then tested/investigated/studied/surveyed etc The data is analysed and conclusions drawn

    800px-The_Scientific_Method_as_an_Ongoing_Process.svg.png

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
    Otherwise it is just someone's unfounded opinion pulled from their arse
     
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    Can you provide a link?
     
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    u do understand that the Bible is mostly myth, right?
     
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    It's a poor attempt to give an answer. If the charcoal came from a single catastrophic event, then it would have settled in between the layers of sediment, not within them as expected from seasonal wildfires, which is what we find. Here is a paper that gives a much better answer.
    http://orca.cf.ac.uk/22008/

    That's quite the conjecture. You have any theory to back it up?

    Periodic local flooding, resulting the rapid burial of animal carcasses in successive layers of sediment. It's not like we haven't observed this happening all over the world.

    Just because it takes millennia for sediment to form sedimentary rock doesn't mean it takes millennia for clams to be buried in sediment.

    And rapid burial in sediment from a local flood wouldn't do the same?
     
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    Do you know what a myth is?
     
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    Yeah it is thome one who ith not married
     
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    You said God told Noah exactly how many animals there would be. Now you saying you can't find the exact numbers? You weren't pulling our legs now, were you?
    Why aren't the pyramids crushed by the water of the mile deep flood? Or at least showing water damage? Many if not most are older than 4000 yrs old and you did say the flood was about 4000 yrs ago. Which per the bible is a close time era.
     
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    Santa Claus and Easter Bunny real to you, as well?
     
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    Do you? You believe there was a mass world wide flood that covered all but the highest mountain, 4000 yrs ago?
     
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    If you get one of those toys that make layers when you flip it you see that many layers can be made with just three types of sand.

    Hydroplate theory with a few tweaks

    That's just it. Every square inch of the earth more or less have sedimentary rock layers. Are you saying that local floods over millions of years made all those sediments?

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    Just because it takes millennia for sediment to form sedimentary rock doesn't mean it takes millennia for clams to be buried in sediment.[/quote]

    Then we are more or less in agreement. I'm not saying the layers turned stone hard right after the flood either.

    Yes, but we see sediments everywhere.
     
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    God told Noah how many pairs there would've and how big to build the ark. The Bible didnt say that Noah build the main support beams to the ark but it is assumed that he did. Besides, where did I said that God told Noah how many animals they'll be?
    The water wasn't a mile deep. What I said was if everything was flat then the water would be a mile deep. As for the pyramids, assuming the dating is correct (the Egyptians exaggerated a lot to make their Pharaoh look good) it could've be shallow and non violent where the pyramids are or the shifting of the earth could've made the water only covered them for week or month and then it was dry the rest of the flood. Stuff like that happens with local floods, especially flash floods.
     
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    What do you think ARAMCO geologists have done over the past 70 years?
     
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    BUT, I thought the bible is the word of God, not Noah
     
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    Then give us those exact numbers. He did say how big to build the ark, but I've seen nothing on how many pairs their would be. You claimed you knew the exact numbers on the ark.

    So if the earth wasn't flat, then the water was higher than 1 mile deep or the earth was flat and the huge mountains all occurred in the last 6000 yrs.
    Prove the egyptians exaggerated and you aren't just making it up to make you fantasy story be true. It wasn't just egyptians who have confirmed the date of the pyramids.
    Now you change the story, the bible says the highest mountains were covered. Mountains would certainly be higher than the pyramids.
    When you can prove things you say instead of making stuff up. Let us know.
     
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    Anyone who has ever owned Wham-O's Magic Window knows that while they make very interesting patterns, multiple parallel layers is not one of them. When you mix various soils with water and agitate it to simulate a flood, you will always find the heavier sediments below the lighter ones.

    [video=youtube;VeuQeAxJIjs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeuQeAxJIjs[/video]

    A theory in search of evidence.

    [/QUOTE]That's just it. Every square inch of the earth more or less have sedimentary rock layers. Are you saying that local floods over millions of years made all those sediments?

    Yes, but we see sediments everywhere.[/QUOTE]
    Sedimentary rocks are not found everywhere, more like 75% of the Earth's surface, which would be all of the areas subjected to flooding at one time or another. If they all sedimentary rocks came from one global flood, then they would all be dated at the same age.
     
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