The ark and a world wide flood.

Hardly. Please study geology before you spout off nonsense. Much of earth doesn't have sedimentary rock layers. Now most of earth has sediment layers, but usually it isn't sedimentary rock. Often that sediment is over metamorphic or igneous rocks (or even sedimentary rocks), and of course, there are many spots where the metamorphic or igneous rocks are the top layer.

 

It's been five minuets and I'm still chuckling!! And it makes more sense than the OP's insistence that the Noah story is true!

 

So, you are more intelligent that those in ancient time telling the story by oral tradition?

There is also no reason to believe it meant the whole world was inundated.

 

I think most people here have no problems with the idea that it was a local phenomena - we just have difficulty with the whole concept of all the continents going under - and as for some of the "explanations" offered so far I have to take a break from reading them - my laugh muscles get too sore!

 

It's happened before.... Ever hear of Snowball Earth?

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LOL, geological evidence suggests just that.

 

Oh! Dear!

Methinks I might have to actually teach the difference between snow (solid) and water (liquid). Now have you any real evidence of "Snowball Earth" happening in recent geological times?

 

I'm not looking at this from a religious perspective - but from a geological one....

I don't care weather or not you believe in God but there was indeed a mass flood that fits within the Biblical story of Noah....

Just because it's been documented and confirmed doesn't prove your skepticism wrong....

The flood happened.....

Now, if you want to believe it was an act of God or nature is your own business....

 

You just said the world has never been covered entirely by water - ice is water...... You know what - the Earth was almost entirely covered in water at one point as well...

You really want to get into the geological history of Earth?

Now, anyone that experienced the "great flood" (one of many) would have seen it as "Earth"...

 

the flood never happened

 

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that the Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya (million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropical paleolatitudes, and other otherwise enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation, the geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean,[2][3] and the difficulty of escaping an all-frozen condition. A number of unanswered questions exist, including whether the Earth was a full snowball, or a "slushball" with a thin equatorial band of open (or seasonally open) water.

continued.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth

 

which gods which floods?

 

Noah wouldn't have been writing about Snowball Earth 650 million years ago.

 

It was a joke.

You may not have gotten it but I did and found it hilarious!

Let me add it may not be too far off to say most people today have way more information and intelligence than goat herders from the bronze age.

 

So what caused the mountains to suddenly grow in such a short amount of time?

 

Convoluted theories to justify a myth.

The Tigris/Euphrates Basin is pretty flat.. It wouldn't take a world wide deluge to flood the area.

 

I usually find that the POOP Question trips up the believers in Noah's Ark.

1. How many animals were onboard?

2. How much solid waste (feces)....per day...in pounds...did they generate?

3. How long would it take 8 people working EVERY DAY to clean up that solid waste?

4. How was liquid waste (urine) disposed of? Hay and straw absorbing it, then the hay and straw mucked out of the stalls and thrown overboard? How much hay and straw would have needed to be stored onboard then?

5. If mucking the stalls of urine-soaked straw is added to #3...how many hours a day would it take 8 people to clean up the Ark...every day?

 

That one is fun....but, even more difficult would be the required food to make the poop. You would likely need to tow a separate Ark just for supplies.

Wait a few minutes and our resident YEC will give us the hibernation excuse.

 

Really? Egyptian pyramids are older than that. The flood has no impact on them.
But, I now understand why you post are the way they are.

 

Then bring it up with the 2 people in this thread that claim it so, not the people telling them there was no world wide flood.

 

Yes, but you say it was like this a mere 4000 yrs ago.
Show us the geological proof that the entire world was a iceball or just melted from an iceball so quickly that the entire world flooded. For the earth to have been that cold in its entirety would mean earth was very far away from the sun, or the sun had very little energy. 4000 yrs ago.
You can't biblically.

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God. duh!

 

1. If they try "hibernation" then why not say ALL the animals fell asleep and God "magically" made it so they went into a state of suspended animation. Remember....hibernation does NOT mean "asleep and never waking for months".....bears that "hibernate" wake up often to eat and drink, they just sleep extra long hours.

2. A pair of elephants generates 200 lbs of solid waste (poop) A DAY. Throw in the poop generated by the giraffes, the capybaras, the cows, the gorillas, the elk, the grizzlies, the buffalo (water AND American bison), the tigers, the moose, the wolves, etc. etc. etc.....

you're talking TONS of solid waste EVERY DAY that has to be shoveled out and thrown overboard by 8 people working round the clock (no sleep or food for them)....and they'd STILL never catch-up.

By the 2nd month, the Ark would be sunk under the weight of its inhabitents crap.


3. Food?.....as bad.

ONE pair of lions....requires 25 lbs of raw meat EVERY DAY to live. If the Ark was "at sea" for a year, it means Noah would need 9125 lbs or FOUR AND A HALF TONS of raw meat...

again...JUST for the lions. (Not the tigers, cougars, panthers, grizzlies, wolves, hyenas, etc.)

No refrigeration means no storage. So what did Noah do? Feed them chickens? Nope....even with dozens of chickens (something the Bible doesn't support) they couldn't generate enough chicks, much less full grown hens to feed the lions (and other carnivores).

 

Please - and ensure that whatever you are quoting shows it happened as a liquid not a solid over the entire planet including Australia

 

There is a theory about a Snowball Earth 670 million years ago.. I doubt Moses was writing about that.

 

Since it pre-dates the Cambrian explosion I would say you are right

Just a piece from Wiki on Snowball Earth

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that the Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya (million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropical paleolatitudes, and other otherwise enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation, the geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean,[2][3] and the difficulty of escaping an all-frozen condition. A number of unanswered questions exist, including whether the Earth was a full snowball, or a "slushball" with a thin equatorial band of open (or seasonally open) water.

The geological time frames under consideration come before the sudden appearance of multicellular life forms on Earth known as the Cambrian explosion, and the most recent snowball episode may have triggered the evolution of multi-cellular life on Earth. Another, much earlier and longer, snowball episode, the Huronian glaciation, which occurred 2400 to 2100 Mya may have been triggered by the first appearance of oxygen in the atmosphere, the "Great Oxygenation Event."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth

Though I suppose someone could have been transported back in time to take a few multicelled creatures on an ark ride through snow......

 

Yep.. I posted that wiki link earlier thinking that Nick would abandon that silly explanation.. He didn't.