The ark and a world wide flood.

Well that is because you cannot reconcile YEC with science and reading articles like Wiki simply challenges the concepts too strongly

 

What gave was more so an educated guess. Looking at all the families we see, fossil or living, that fit the description of what went into the ark it's around 8,000.

If that be the case then we would be underwater now. It like today but only less jagged. The water came from underground

Ok.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_chronology

http://xenohistorian.faithweb.com/worldhis/Histapp1.html

 

This is the flood theory that I think is being referenced to. A man named Brown states that the earth was once one giant continent and this continent was sitting on water just below the earths crust. This land mass did not have the giant mountains we have now but smaller mountains and rolling hills. When God opened up the "fountains of the deep" this caused a fracture in the earths crust that separated the land into different land masses and since the land had lubricating water still under them they slid across the surface of the earth and collided causing the large mountains and deep oceans we have today. Since some of the land that was once under water ended up on top of the mountains we have fossils on top of mountains. And rapid burial created the Dino fossils.

All of the vegetation on earth was buried quickly and the vegetation that was trapped with water became oil (hydrocarbons) and the vegetation that was trapped where the water could escape became coal.

There is more to this "theory" but this is a loose summary.

 

Yes they do.

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A theory in search of evidence.

Sedimentary rocks are not found everywhere, more like 75% of the Earth's surface, which would be all of the areas subjected to flooding at one time or another. If they all sedimentary rocks came from one global flood, then they would all be dated at the same age.[/QUOTE]

We also find marine fossils on mountains and sediments there too.

https://www.icr.org/article/842/

 

Soft sediments and continental drift aided by underground water.

 

marine fossils were pushed up by the action of tectonic plates.. over millions of years. The Himalayas are still getting taller and the Red Sea is still getting wider.
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A theory in search of evidence.



Sedimentary rocks are not found everywhere, more like 75% of the Earth's surface, which would be all of the areas subjected to flooding at one time or another. If they all sedimentary rocks came from one global flood, then they would all be dated at the same age.[/QUOTE]

We also find marine fossils on mountains and sediments there too.

https://www.icr.org/article/842/[/QUOTE]

 

How many land dwelling animals that breathe through their notrils?

If most of them hibernated and were babies or juveniles then probably not that much. Plus Noah and his family could've toss it overboard.

I don't know but with little else to to they probably had a lot of time. It's not like they had to steer the boat.

Depends on the size of the animal, if they were babies or juveniles, and if they hibernated.

See above.

 

As I said....hibernation....hehhahahalol.

AND, we bet babies for good measure...what a freakin' joke.

 

You said God gave Noah exact numbers. Now you are giving us your 'educated' guess. What education?

It did? What forced it to come up to the surface. What filled the void left behind?

From your wiki link:
This is illustrated by comparing the chronology as given by two Egyptologists, the first writing in 1906, the second in 2000 (all dates in the table are BC).[2]

Dynasty Breasted (1906) Shaw (2000)
Early Dynastic Period of Egypt 1st 3400–2980 c. 3000–2686
2nd
Old Kingdom 3rd 2980–2900 2686–2613
4th 2900–2750 2613–2494
5th 2750–2625 2494–2345
6th 2623–2475 2345–2181

All of these dates predate the flood of 4000 yrs ago. Best guess is flood was about 2500 BC.

 

World wide, less than 4000 yrs ago, while civilizations were strong and well in South America and other continents. That kind of earth upheaval that quickly, not to mention they were suppose to drown also, would have ended those civilizations.

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At least there has been no discussion of cannibalization, yet.

 

Balbeck and Byblos are older than that as are civilizations in Anatolia and China. The Natufians were living in caves in Galilee are 11,000 years old........

 

Because those mountains used to be sea beds millions of years ago.

Which would require significantly more movement than we have ever observed or any theory postulates.

 

Evidence for this?

 

Yet geology is still used to confirm AGW?

The land masses shift - the equator stays the same....

 

No, the equator does not stay the same. axial tilt varies.

 

When using a blog or a website ALWAYS and I mean ALWAYS look at the quality of the references. The second source you are quoting has references that include "what sum bloke sed" and a paper from 1948. Even adding in all the padding they only manage 18 references - given the huge body of work out there I would say this is crap - with an added side dish of complete rubbish

 

Are you under the impression that climatologists don't already know this?

 

It's not their business.... Climatologists only know perhaps what happened over the last 300 years.....

Do you know how old the Earth is?

You know 300 years isn't dick to the Earths age???

AGW is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie and and the proof lays within the conspiracy behind it..... Any intelligent person would say waaaaaaait a minute with all the information......

Blaming climate change on man and de facto industry is one of the biggest crocks of (*)(*)(*)(*) and coups of economy and blatant bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies in the history of humanity.......

Did the climate change before man?

ok....

 

It appears you don't know much about the science of climatology. Perhaps you are once again confusing weather and climate.

http://www.antarcticglaciers.org/glaciers-and-climate/ice-cores/ice-core-basics/

 

Ok, show me the exact quote where I said God gave Noah the exact number of animals. As for what did the sediment ran into they ran into bedrock which is granite.

The main point is that the Egyptian chronology is incorrect.

http://creationwiki.org/Egyptian_chronology

 

It is not incorrect. It has been corrected based on substantive new KNOWLEDGE. A huge friggin' difference.

According to a creationist expert this is the date for the flood:

http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood

Apparently, the Egyptian kingdom was inundated and all the egyptians killed, except nobody told the Egyptians.
Not to mention a number of asian civilizations that also flourished while being inundated.

Amazing that god apparently waved his hand and voila, all those civilizations were restored in situ.

But don't let facts get in the way. I mean history and archeology and geology are just secular conspiracies using untruths and lies to denigrate your faith.

Sad that in this day and age, that such intransigent ignorance still flourishes.

 

Sorry "creation wiki" is not an acceptable resource as it is a waste of bandwidth again check the references - they are to "creation" articles

I know why so few creationists live in Aussie land

a) first they have to accept such a place exists
b) does not fit with a flat earth
c) They would have to accept that although America might be :God's own country" Australia was where God goes for a holiday
d) We would have sold you the Opera house, Sydney Harbour Bridge and Uluru

 

Look at your answers...

"How many"..."probably"...."I don't know"..."depends"

You're great at spouting the traditional Creationist Talking Points (typically, trying to shoot holes in Evolution or even accepting "micro-evolution", to get one pair of White-Tailed Deer on the Ark who "turned into" every speces of deer-like animal on the planet 4000 years ago)....

but you have little or no way to explain YOUR theories or beliefs in detail. And, in point of fact, you DON'T WANT to even think about your beliefs very carefully or in detail, because the obvious illogic would start to unravel them.

If you actually spent time trying to work out the animal husbandry logistics of the Ark....without "magic happened"....you'd suddenly see that it would have been impossible....and your entire faith would collapse, because you cannot accept the idea that Bible is not "100% totally and utterly historic and accurate....Genesis to the end"


On JUST ONE of your points?....baby mammals require MILK from their mothers. Are you suggesting the "pairs" were ONE male animal and his mother? Then after the landing at Ararat, the male juvenile mated with his mother when he grew up? The old "Cain and Seth married their sisters" Bible biology?

Or are you suggesting Noah fed the baby tigers, baby elephants, baby giraffes, baby hippos, baby camels, baby gorillas, etc.....cow's milk? or goat's milk?

How much milk could the cows or goats produce A DAY? And if you start putting TONS of goats on the Ark...to provide all the milk?...you're back to hay for urine mucking and shoveling feces.

 

There were two flood stories that were cobbled together around 500 BC.. Go back and read it.