The Bolsheviks do not receive nearly the same condemnation as Nazis

Hmmm. Only partly.

Wrong question. How many deaths can we be responsible for if we dont? Once again this crazy wild eyed libritarian foreign policy falls apart when your advasary is not rational. Theocracy is not rational. Twelvers such as the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad are not rational people. Therefore you must take them at their word when they want to start international war. To not sanction them because they are hideing behind their people is to effectivly negotiate with terrorism and encourage the practice of human sheilds.

 

And Saudi Arabia?

And Pakistan?

And Israel?


I know who was involved in 9/11 and Afghanistan was about 10th on the list.

 

Carrots and sticks my friend. An American absense in that area will result in war, which is really not a bad thing (it sorts everything out) unless you have nukes involved. Thats yet anohter reason to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power. Every time someone obtaines a nuke we end up paying them to keep it a secret and not to use them. North Korea and Packastan are such examples. One nuclear power can hold the world hostage. One irrational nuclear power will just destroy the world.

 

Oh God he's a truther. I guess when you wage the abstract war on terrorism its tough to nail it down as we did in the Philippines. We care too much about the rights of those who dont play by the same rules.

 

Or we could have abstained from making ourselves the enemies of every single rogue nation on the planet.

But your'e right, we've been ruled by anti-liberty world-conquering psychopaths for decades.

 

And I'd guess you have zero knowledge on the truth and referred to Fox News. I thought you were smarter than that, Lex, one never can tell.

 

In a way, he is right that Afghanistan didn't attack us. The Taliban certainly don't represent all of that country. And the Taliban certainly didn't attack us on 9/11. Their only connection is that they gave safe haven to Al-Qaeda through a monetary arrangement.

 

After multiple deployments around the world in the United States Marines, both in combat and non combat missions, I think Ive got a better handle on international policy, culture, and relations than you do. Especially when we were making international news, not watching it.

 

In all ways I'm right. I know exactly what happened. Therefore, I know how stupid my fellow Americans have become.

 

Too much traveling round the world to support the conquerors and not enough finding the truth I'm afraid.

 

I don't agree with that. If he really was/is a US Marine who has been deployed to the frontlines in the War on Terror, I would say he probably has a unique perspective of issues like this that we could probably never understand. Therefore his opinions would hold some credibility.

 

Sorry friend, that makes him an insider and worthless drone of the state. How much time has that soldier had to explore Ptech, the 9/11 commission saying they were full of (*)(*)(*)(*), and the connections to Tim Osman?

Exactly.

 

While you are sitting at home watching history, that man was overseas making it happen. Just because he wears a uniform doesn't mean he isn't a human being like the rest of us.

 

Such an adhominim attack from a fella whos certainly less travelled than I and has never seen the world as I have seen it does not advance your position on the merits. However, I am inclined to reply by advocating that put down the tin foil hat, get out of your underground bunker full of twinkies and articles on Obamas birth cirtificait, and travel the world for a while. Specifically to Iran, Iraq, or Afghanistan. Then, as your being kidnapped and murdered remember what I said about rationality in the 3rd world.

 

Traveling the world doesn't find you the truth, supporter of mass murder.

I know exactly what happened, and you are a well-traveling statist moron. sorry guy. If you'd like, I can help you see exactly what you missed while up in the air.

Otherwise, this thread is about Bolsheviks, which does apply to this current discussion

JEWZ

 

When you beleive in something so much that you think your manner of governance is the only true way of thinking, you automatically assume that no task is to great to acheive it and nothing said by anyone else is relevent despite their expertease. He is expereincing such idelogical irrationality. See below.

 

This thread has officially taken a turn for the worst...

 

Neh, he was in the air fighting for non-essential conquests and being a typical skinhead statist idiot.

I've already explained what really happened for the most part. It only takes an IQ over 110 to realize that you've been deceived. work harder.

 

Yeah, they should stop being usury retards.

 

It certainly has. I thought I was talking to a reasonable fella. It seems as though I've wasted my time. However, as Jefferson once wrote "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." My job as a Marine was indeed to secure said rights. Infact, the militarys very presence does this without fireing a shot. And that is the reason he is lucky to be able to spew such nonsense.

Your welcome NetworkCitizen!

 

You've missed the boat, Marine. Jefferson would laugh in your face.

 

If your were to get in to the meat and potatoes of foreign relations and international policy you would realize that it isnt as black and white as you think. Adhominim attacks, on the other hand, only discredit your arguement.

 

Another adhominim attack in the absense of a reasonable arguement. I beleive it was Jefferson who sent us "to the shores of Tripoli" as our hymn goes. What would Jefferson do?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eB7RyD7PW8&feature=related"]The Marines Hymn - YouTube[/ame]

 

Sorry Lex, I like you, but you've been lied to.

There is way too much evidence proving that the attack on American soil which changed America had ties within America. You can believe their piles of obvious bull(*)(*)(*)(*) or you can fight against this war against individualism and liberty.


Or we can continue for weeks to debate America's war against liberty vs your war against sanity.

Seems good to me.

 

I found a picture of someone who might agree with you. You should look him up.