The Book of Revelation Unlocked

Genesis 1:1 tells us only one thing we know as fact. That the Earth exists.

Although it has caused an explosion on this Thread - verbal, of course.

 

Yes but can you please make your point.

 

This is an absurd claim. You can not possibly know that there are not other entities in the universe capable of understanding reality.
I would claim that even animals have an understanding of reality on some level.

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Perhaps man can live forever, perhaps not. Man has yet to figure out the answer to this question.

 

The problem is the pathetic effort to scientifically explain walking on water or living inside a fish for three days........ Trying to use science to explain myths and morality tales...... No wonder people are leaving the church.,

 

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Wasn't the "beginning" when "the Heavens and the Earth did not have any 'form' and that 'action' had just started?"

 

For mankind, Truth and Reality are the same thing.
One explains the other.
They are each the images of eachother.
Truth is born out of the Reality which unfolds.
Men can not tell one from the other.
That is a Trinity.

 

Said, "Man is the only creature which can understand Reality."

Animals understand Truth to the extent that they can function in the environment
But they can not understand the Natural Laws, nor make predictions about the weather into the future, nor what Reality may or may not do in the far future.
Man can.

Hence, as you say, it is up to man to show the light of Truth into the future will save him from meteors, Wars, diseases, famines, etc.

 

Truth, reality and men form a trinity?

You do realize that "trinity" requires 3, right?

And, if you can't tell truth and reality apart, then maybe you should just use one of those terms.

 

Man-Reality-Truth is a trinity of a sort. Agreed

 

As religious allegory, fine.

As what we discover by looking around us (that is, as physics), no, that's not the way it worked.

 

Walking on water is the one trick which Moses, Elijah, and Jesus perfected.
These are the only three men to have ever done this as is reported in the Bible.

Its impossible for some people to see even one magic event like this, and buy into Religion.
But they have bought the magic of the Double Slit Experiment, which says Light is both a particle and a Wave.
Its the same magic again.

 

Once again this is absurd. There could be hundreds of alien entities in the universe with this capability.

Early humans were not able to figure out things that modern humans can. So what ? Animals, as far as we know, have not developed such capabilities the way modern humans did.

Certain animals are able to predict the weather, some can predict earthquakes.

All you are really saying is that humans have evolved an increased intellectual capacity.

There could well be alien entities that have evolved well beyond our intellectual capacity.

Where are you going with this ?

 

The term "action" can be used in the context of organizing something (a goal) to be enacted of course. On the other hand, the term 'action' taken in the context mentioned, does not represent the something (a goal) as having been enacted or accomplished. Example: If you make specific and detailed plans for the next ten hours, that set of plans does not provide a showing/doing of the actual manifestation of those plans. In Genesis chapter 1, the first showing of an 'action' that shows a movement toward what was planned and in contrast to the condition that existed in verses 1 and 2 is found in "Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." "God said" is the command given to initiate the manifestation of the plan. It was not until that "God said" that anything began to happen. Even the forming of the 'big bang' or the forming of the stars or any other activity found in what is now considered as the universe. The term 'created' found in verse one, is akin to the plans that you might make for the days activities. Until you get up off your duff and away from the planning board, none of the activities found in the plan will even have a chance to be initiated.

 

This seems entirely logical to me.

Some of these stories have allegorical meaning.

But, when the focus is on trying to prove they were literal, that each component conforms to physical laws, it puts the focus in a place that seems highly unappealing.

 

..."allegory"...

1) Genesis says the Universe had a beginning, which in 1940 Science finally agreed.

2) Genesis says some supernatural force OBSERVED the Wave Functions which science says existed, and that act was what collapsed them into a material Reality.

3) Genesis says all matter that was created appeared immediately, even the mass which was formlessly to become the Earth appeared, instantaneously,... and then it stopped, immediately thereafter.

Let's look at verses Gen 1:3-5.
In an uncanny way, Genesis says that a Dark Cosmic Universe existed until, at some point, Light was created as hydrogen atoms formed out of the initial hot chaos.
This was also true.

 

That is my point, too.
I say it is the only trinity which fits the bible story.
God is Reality.
Reality is all powerful, eternal, absolute, unchangeable, and the god-like power over all life.

Truth is the grace of the Reality, because it can set man free.

 

Aliens is what is absurd.
They are not part of our Reality.
But if they exist, and can be saved by Truth, too, they are included.

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1) Reality

2) Truth

3)Thoughts that are true to men

 

"Reality" as you are referencing the common interpretation of 'Reality' is in a constant state of 'change', therefore, your assertion is false. Cut down a tree and Reality has changed. A woman getting pregnant changes 'reality'.

 

So,...
Christianity made more men realize that, "the Truth can set them free."

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Truth has appeared when one frame of Reality sees a tree cut down.
But this is followed by the next frame of Reality unfolding more truth.

 

So Reality is not "unchangeable". If I was there to witness the tree in its full glory as a growing, living thing, and then see it cut down and destroyed, I have witnessed Reality changing. Reality is not "unchangeable". Get a grip on Reality.

Also, don't forget to answer this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=420538&p=1065325369#post1065325369

 

Hmmm,...
The word used for Jonas can mean dragon, too.
It means beast, of some large capacity.

I think the allegory of symbolism was used to represent the seven headed economic beast which traps us all over and again.
I envision Jonas sitting at his job, doing what men do, and avoiding the salary-less work of a prophet.

 

Reality is a "force."
Science say three forces are behind Reality.
That is another Trinity, of course.

Reality unfolds in short pulses, instantaneously, creating the next frame of Existence.
That existence is Truth, like the history of all passed Realities.

 

The Rules of Debate are also a force to be reckoned with.
homepage.ntu.edu.tw/~karchung/debate 1.htm
Pay particular attention to rule #5 and start showing PROOF of all of your assorted claims regarding "Reality".

 

The Jonah story is a short comic novella about a militant Jew that tried to avoid going to Ninevah.. Of course when the fish barfed him up on the shore he did finally go and witness to the people of Ninevah.. They repented and God spared them, but Jonah was so furious because he wanted God to destroy them anyway that he sat in the desert sun to pout. God gave him a Castor Bean tree for shade.... and then took it away. It really has a comic ending.. Its a lesson in xenophobia.. .. God loves ALL his children.

 

No, this is certainly not the "same magic again".

We understand the physics well enough to duplicate the experiment consistently, and for it to be an established part of a consistent model of how our universe works.

That is certainly not true for walking on water, where we have a centuries old report without any significant corroboration and zero ability to duplicate it. Data of this type is routinely discarded.