The Cheney Effect

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Lol, good luck with!
     
  2. Pieces of Malarkey

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    I don't watch Fox News. I saw about 10 minutes of that Jan. 6 fiasco and had it pretty much figured.

    Maybe you should be watching less Rachel Maddow. Maybe you could figure it out too.
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Mostly watch PBS Newshour, along with Meet the Press.
     
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    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    I gave up watching any TV news shows (and basically a lot of TV) when I worked in DC. There it's a constant background of noise and pointless bickering. It just made me depressed and angry all the time.

    Now I spend that time taking care of the dogs, fixing the house, cutting the grass, or playing my guitar.

    Much healthier existence.
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    How dare the Jan.6th committee. Trump did nothing wrong. It was "perfect" insurrection.
     
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    I wold say they both deserve to be in a court room.
     
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    The 'Insurrection' Exoneration

    'J6 Committee’s Suppressed Evidence Scandal Exonerates Trump From ‘Insurrection’ Narrative'

    'I was present when Donald Trump authorized 10,000 National Guard troops days before Jan. 6 in the Oval Office. My testimony never changed.'

    J6 Committee deliberately withheld this exonerating information.

    'Donald Trump authorized at least 10,000 National Guard troops days before Jan. 6 in the Oval Office with the secretary of defense, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, chief of staff to President Trump, me, and others present. Pursuant to that authorization, senior DOD officials were dispatched to D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser’s office and the Capitol Police. Each of our respective testimonials, under oath, confirms this key fact.'

    They deliberately and maliciously excluded 'the testimony of career Secret Service Agent Tony Ornato from the evidentiary record, not just in the J6 committee’s report, but also from the bogus Colorado court case. Ornato testified two years ago that Trump had indeed authorized the National Guard days before Jan. 6.'

    'Ornato was assigned to the White House during the Trump administration to coordinate presidential protection as deputy chief of staff. As a Secret Service officer with a distinguished decades-long apolitical career, it was impossible for the J6 committee to label him a “Trump loyalist” and thereby undermine his testimony. Instead, they hid it. '

    'Just as the FBI previously lied to a federal court and withheld exculpatory evidence during the Russia hoax to illegally spy on Donald Trump, Cheney and her J6 committee ran a deep-state disinformation operation against the American people. '

    Exposed.
     
  9. Media_Truth

    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    :gallery: Beautiful, that's a good one. You left out a few things. Trump waited 3-1/2 hours while somebody died, others were dismembered, and others suffered serious subsequent mental issues, and some of them later died.

    Many people have lied and lied about this issue to try to help Trump. You cite a few. Fortunately, we all saw it unfold with our own eyes and ears. False claims of election fraud. The big lie. A false elector plot. And more, more, more...
     
  10. Zorro

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    You're lost. He authorized the 10,000 guard prior to 1/6.
     
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  11. Media_Truth

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    From Defense Secretary Chris Miller

    “I was never given any direction or order or knew of any plans of that nature,” Miller said in the video.

    Miller later said in the video definitively, “There was no direct, there was no order from the President.”

    “We obviously had plans for activating more folks, but that was not anything more than contingency planning,” Miller added. “There was no official message traffic or anything of that nature.”


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/politics/chris-miller-house-select-committee/index.html

    Nothing more than more TRUMP LIES. Oh, and he is oh - so good- at getting others to lie for him. All his kiss-the-ring cronies who initially condemned the attack - McConnell, MaCarthy, Graham, etc - Your Party is in a shambles, and are trying to lie their way out of their immoral pit. They should have impeached Trump and moved on. They had another chance to get rid of the lying idiot. They could have chosen Nikki Haley. Lose, lose, lose, is all Trump's done for that Party since 2016.
     
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    That's horseshit, tRaitor tRump didn't authorize any; in the first place.

    And secondly; there are only 2500 DC guard under the President's command.

    Max! Look it up. :wtf:

    What he did, to look like a big shot to someone present, is tell his Asst. SecDef "were going to need 10k guard".

    The Asst. SecDef didn't act on it and tRaitor tRump didn't follow up or ever mention it again.
     
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  13. Zorro

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    And there never would be. As has been explained to you repeatedly, and as everyone knows, were the president to ORDER Military Troops onto the Capital, it would be a Military Coup, therefore, as Congress is a Co-Equal branch of government, the government authorizes them, but the Democrats, Pelosi and the Mayor of DC turned down the authorization as has been repeatedly testified to. It is impossible for them to turn down the authorized troops, if the president didn't authorize them.
    Fake News. We lead everything.

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    Crazed Dems did, twice, and both times it failed in the Senate.
    No one lies more than Bribed Demented Joe.
    You can have her, we aren't the party of Neocon War Mongers.
    Trump won the presidency in 2016 and in 2022 the GOP won the midterms by 9 seats and 3,000,000 votes.
     
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    Media_Truth Well-Known Member Donor

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    Oh, so 2022 was a victory for Republicans? If you really believe all this nonsense, then I would encourage you to vote in this poll.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...countable-for-jan-6th.617444/#post-1074707117

    As you're answering the questions, ask yourself this, Should Trump be Rewarded with a Victory?, or "Should Trump be Held Accountable?
     
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    Picked up 9 seats and the majority, won the popular vote by 3 million votes.
    Are you saying that the folks that lost 9 seats, the majority, and lost by 3,000,000 votes, "won"?
    Despite Dems desperately trying to decide the issue in the Courtroom rather than the Ballot Box, that's up to the voters.

    Voters will need to ask themselves: Was I better off when Trump was President, or am I better off since this Bribed Demented Liar got in on an election rigged by the corrupt FBI and CIA burying Hunter's Laptop that detailed the Biden Crime Family's International Bribery operation?
    Dems have become the party of the Rich Privileged Gentry, losing touch with the Working and Middle Class that they have hurt very very badly during the Biden misAdministration.

    Folks are going to vote their interests. I realize that the Rich Privileged Gentry are angry and confused that don't simply obey them when they tell us what to see think and feel, but that's a illegitimate demand that most folks are going to simply, quietly, refuse.
     
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    Trump built the largest debt in the history of the US. Even though Republicans had control of all 3 branches in 2016, they accomplished nothing - nothing substantial with the border (wasn't Mexico supposed to pay for some Wall of some kind). Their only claim to fame was tax cuts that favored billionaires, and drove up the deficit astronomically. The idiot did nothing but Make America Hate Again. Oh wait - he awarded Rush Limbaugh the Medal of Freedom. Looking forward to more of the same???
     
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    Fake news. Obama was president in 2016.
     

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