The Covid-19 Pandemic Does Not Exist

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  1. Betamax101

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    The debate awaits your pathetic rebuttal and you keep attributing that misquote to Socrates. More failure!


    Quivering with fear. Afraid to answer posts and a simple question. Making up crap about questions to avoid doing so. Cue chicken noises.
     
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    Once again, can't handle it so you resort to slander. When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. Socrates
     
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    Spam. Socrates did not say such a thing. You can't even understand your failure on such an easily proven matter.
     
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    Of course not, not in your pathetic world.
     
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    When the debate is lost slander becomes the tool of the losers..Unknown

    Socrates never wrote down a single thing. As I said you are now fixating on this to hide your failure. I will repost it all shortly.

    Now list exactly any outstanding questions that relate directly to your batshit disproven claim. Or continue your cowardly evasion.

    https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/socrates-slander-becomes-the-tool-of-the-loser-quote-is-false/
     
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    No questions? However, they can be raised. But you choose not to because it's not in your best interests as it will demolish your notion of what the document is about.
    Your perception, not mine. Good try though, remember what Socrates said.
    Until you can be more civil, I'll remain silent. Good day.
     
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    And there we have it. The troll who hands out his own brand of non-civility chooses to run away from his failure rather than concede it. Table 7 in the Pfizer report shows their relevant entries pertaining to the AESI's that were compiled as a generic list by an outside organization!

    Dishonesty is rife amongst the thousands of cloned "truther" websites and to compound it, even worse amongst the gullible people who fall for it and defend it at all costs - number one being basic integrity.

    The icing on the cake - he has a quote in his signature from a man who never wrote down a single thing, whose utterances occasionally recorded by Plato show that he never said anything even close to this. The whole thing a misquote and as becomes the conspiracy theorist becomes a fact with no thought whatsoever.
     
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    so Trump doesn't pick the best people?
     
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    No. It's because you don't and won't want to understand why these and the rest of the 800,000 pages of Pfizer documents were hidden for 75 years until a court ordered the release of it all. But yet you continue on with your personal attacks and grossly misunderstood interpretation of the document that was posted.
    Yet here we have it, the opposition who has nothing better to say other than slander.

    However, there are other organisations that do see the nefarious actions and events caused by a number of government departments via the covid injections.
    BOMBSHELL evidence: FDA and Pfizer conspired to hide thousands of adverse events and deaths caused by the COVID jab
    CDC & Media Push a Cocktail of Poisons
    FDA and Pfizer conspired to hide thousands of adverse events and deaths caused by the COVID jab
    FDA Releases First Set of Pfizer COVID-19 Shot Safety Data
    Pfizer Post-Authorisation Information Revealed – Implications for Public Policy

    It's surprising it can't be seen by you. Or you choose not to see, look the other way because the truth doesn't care about your feelings.
     
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    Pfaci was already head of NIH was he not?
     
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    was Trump's pick for his administrations task force
     
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    Oh wow, look at the conspiracy theorist move the goalposts to a completely different subject!

    Hypocrisy and whingeing.

    Really? I mean really! You list your supporters from batshit websites specializing in mis/disinformation!

    Bullshit. I read the actual report and unlike you understand it. Your failure is not as pathetic as your evasion

    Table 7 provides a summary review of cumulative cases within AESI categories in the Pfizer
    safety database.


    End of discussion. Your list of 1291 is not the list of adverse reactions from the vaccine. Never was and never will be. The damn report even tells you this and the link I provided shows that the AESI list came from an outside organization!

    Epic fail compounded by cowardly denial.
     
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    Because he (Pfauci) was already the top dog in that arena. Who else was a contender for that job? Nobody.
    He was in that role well before Trump had a twinkle in his eyes for the presidency.
     
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    so Trump picked him, could of picked anyone, at anytime, Trump failed us I guess
     
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    You're the epic failure.
    TELL ME THIS OH MASTER BULLSHIT OF WISDOM, WHY WAS THE DOCUMENT COURTED TO BE HIDDEN FOR 75 YEARS FROM THE PUBLIC? BUT THE COURT OVERTURNED IT? WHAT TAP DANCE ROUTINE HAVE YOU NOW?
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    You state the above but don't provide what it is. Great argument, particularly when the title of the document is;

    How can anyone misinterpret the title of the document, oh you can. So you can feel better that your belief that there is no conspiracy, just theories, hey? Insurmountable documents are there, so there's no theory, just facts. Because some don't want the bubble to burst that they're epically wrong in every aspect.


    So tell me then, the last 9 pages of the Pfizer document are what then if you're so eager to say they aren't?

     
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    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. Not-Socrates

    When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers. Not-Socrates

    Gotta love hypocrisy!

    Say what? Are you suggesting that the Pfizer Coronavirus Covid-19 document was hidden for 75 years?

    I have not the slightest clue what the hell you are waffling on about. Kindly explain, because although it's too late to stop yourself looking dumb, you can at least show willing.


    I stated the argument entirely.

    You: Probably read this bullshit on some "truther" website, never bothered reading the report or checking the factoid and subsequently started spewing it out as your big "Ahaa" reveal. Your claim in a nutshell involves the AESI section recently added to medical research report requirements. It states that the AESI list of 1291 adverse side effects are ACTUAL side effects of the Pfizer vaccine BNT162B2.

    Me: Pointed out a number of things.

    Firstly the AESI comes from a list compiled and provided by SPEAC:
    Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults - PMC (nih.gov)
    "In March 2020, the Brighton Collaboration and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations partnership, Safety Platform for Emergency vACcines (SPEAC), created and subsequently updated a “priority list of potential adverse events of special interest relevant to COVID-19 vaccine trials.” [1] The list comprises adverse events of special interest (AESIs) based on the specific vaccine platform, adverse events associated with prior vaccines in general, theoretical associations based on animal models, and COVID-19 specific immunopathogenesis. "


    Secondly the AESI within the appendix is not the list of adverse effects at all. This is documented within Table 7:
    Table 7 provides a summary review of cumulative cases within AESI categories in the Pfizer safety database.

    Thirdly that the AESI is defined as thus:
    Adverse Event of Special Interest (AESI) Definition | Law Insider
    "An Adverse Event of Special Interest (AESI) (serious or non-serious) is one of scientific and medical concern specific to the sponsor’s product or programme, for which ongoing monitoring and rapid communication by the investigator to the sponsor could be appropriate."


    Strawman lie. I neither misinterpreted the title or anything within the report.



    Diversion noted. The AESI list is not the list of the adverse effects from the vaccine.

    If I had a hand 10 feet across it would not deliver the appropriate facepalm for that statement. I've spent the last 3 pages trying to get you to respond to the exact thing you just asked and stated by me on numerous occasions.

    1. The AESI is not from Pfizer!
    2. It is from an outside organisation called SPEAC!
    3. The AESI is for informational purposes and consequently sits in the Appendix rather than the body of the report.
    4. The Table 7 highlights the actual adverse effects from the vaccine.

    Once again:
    "The AESI terms are incorporated into a TME list and include events of interest due to their association with severe COVID-19 and events of interest for vaccines in general. The AESI list is comprised of MedDRA PTs, HLTs, HLGTs or MedDRA SMQs and can be changed as appropriate based on the evolving safety profile of the vaccine. "
     
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    How do you know, did you 'fact-check' it? auiqs.jpg.gif Whose is it then?
    Of course you don't. Have no clue, hey? Because MSM won't report on things like this. As it will upset the apple cart.
    Judge Gives FDA 8 Months, Not 75 Years, to Produce Pfizer Safety Data
    Court rejects FDA request to hide Pfizer jab data for 75 years, orders release over coming months
    No. See, you just proved my point. You make accusations and assumptions. THEY WANTED TO HIDE IT FOR 75 YEARS.
    Who is it from then, can you at least point out where it states on the document that it is not data from Pfizer, even though it's a document from Pfizer, a study by Pfizer of the adverse effects of their junk science concoction?
    Page 1, found below the title of the document;
    You haven't given me your interpretation of the Pfizer document if it is not
    5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT
    REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021

    And the 9 pages are what if they aren't this?
    APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST

    Please, I anticipate the auiqs.jpg.gif auiqs.jpg.gif auiqs.jpg.gif auiqs.jpg.gif auiqs.jpg.gif auiqs.jpg.gif
     
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    Some clown on facebook made the claim and a few repeated it. Then you came along misquoting a man who never actually wrote anything down.

    Oh my god. Another ridiculous side-issue failure! He rejected the FDA request to release documents at a specific rate because it would TAKE 75 years! Is English your first language?

    FORT WORTH, Texas (Lifesitenews) — A U.S. District Judge has ordered the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to publish more than 320,000 documents related to Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine at a rate of 55,000 pages per month. Initially, the FDA had asked for a rate of 500 pages per month, amounting to 75 years, to release the documents, citing “unduly burdensome” logistical and personnel hurdles.

    Are you blind! Line below your idiotic quote!

    1. The AESI is not from Pfizer!
    2. It is from an outside organisation called SPEAC!

    Further up in my post!
    "Firstly the AESI comes from a list compiled and provided by SPEAC: Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults - PMC (nih.gov) "In March 2020, the Brighton Collaboration and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations partnership, Safety Platform for Emergency vACcines (SPEAC), created and subsequently updated a “priority list of potential adverse events of special interest relevant to COVID-19 vaccine trials.” [1] The list comprises adverse events of special interest (AESIs) based on the specific vaccine platform, adverse events associated with prior vaccines in general, theoretical associations based on animal models, and COVID-19 specific immunopathogenesis. "

    Exactly as it says. Body of effects found in Table 7!


    That is exactly what they are. Potential issues with Covid 19 and vaccines in general that MAY occur! The list is obligatory, not compiled by Pfizer.

    God this is like pulling teeth!
     
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    Not answering the question. Plus, I don't do FB.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:Potential? Did you even read any and all the tables, I know you have with #7, a lot of cases found. But, you still want to deny it. Make up some bullshit that satisfies your version.
    Yep, and I'm sure you won't go and find anything. Figures.
     
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    Irrelevant. The quote was from somebody on Facebook, auto-believed by the gullible who never check. Then a few misquotes later, along you come. Gullible and don't check. Presto, you have another failure.

    The whole AESI appendix entry comes from here:

    Microsoft Word - SO2_D2.1.2_V1.2_COVID-19_AESI update 23Dec2020 review_final.docx (brightoncollaboration.us)

    And I bellow with laughter at your statement did I "even read any and all the tables". Clearly you didn't because anyone with any knowledge of research papers understands that you need to read the whole paper to understand what it is fully about.

    I just explained yet another of your incompetent failures. They weren't seeking to hide anything. The sheer number of documents to produce is a mammoth task and the FDA rightly sought to limit this burden. YOU however believed yet another batshit claim about them seeking to hide for 75 years. All irrelevant to your claim and diversion.

    Summary:
    1. The AESI wasn't from Pfizer, it came from an outside organization called SPEAC/
    2. The AESI is not part of the report it is information in the Appendix!
    3. The report clearly states that Table 7 contains the actual adverse events.
     
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    Serious adverse events of special interest following mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in randomized trials in adults - PMC (nih.gov)
    Who created it?
    "In March 2020, the Brighton Collaboration and the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations partnership, Safety Platform for Emergency vACcines (SPEAC), created and subsequently updated a “priority list of potential adverse events of special interest relevant to COVID-19 vaccine trials.” [1] The list comprises adverse events of special interest (AESIs) based on the specific vaccine platform, adverse events associated with prior vaccines in general, theoretical associations based on animal models, and COVID-19 specific immunopathogenesis. "

    How many adverse events were there?
    "In the Pfizer trial, 52 serious AESI (27.7 per 10,000) were reported in the vaccine group and 33 (17.6 per 10,000) in the placebo group. This difference corresponds to a 57 % higher risk of serious AESI (RR 1.57 95 % CI 0.98 to 2.54) and a risk difference of 10.1 serious AESI per 10,000 vaccinated participants (95 % CI −0.4 to 20.6). In the Moderna trial, 87 serious AESI (57.3 per 10,000) were reported in the vaccine group and 64 (42.2 per 10,000) in the placebo group. This difference corresponds to a 36 % higher risk of serious AESI (RR 1.36 95 % CI 0.93 to 1.99) and a risk difference of 15.1 serious AESI per 10,000 vaccinated participants (95 % CI −3.6 to 33.8).

     
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    Yeah, sure it is.
    So you're saying Pfizer just did a copy and paste?
    Yore response to this is irrelevant because it is fact, you'd rather ignore it because it will upset your apple cart.
    Judge Gives FDA 8 Months to Release Pfizer Vaccine Data After Agency Requested 75 Years
    Court-Ordered Pfizer Documents They Tried to Have Sealed for 55 Years Show 1223 Deaths, 158,000 Adverse Events in 90 Days Post EUA Release
    Pfizer's 75-year sealed vaccine 'safety data' to be released after judge ruling

    The only reason you use words like "batshit" is because you refuse to accept the facts that are evident. I bet you didn't know that the CDC wanted to change the definition of the word, 'vaccine' too.

     
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    ~ Are you referring to this ?

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