The Delta variant will cause 'very dense outbreaks' in these five states, expert says

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    WRONG again!

    The ONUS is entirely on YOU to PROVE that it is a SAFE and EFFECTIVE prophylactic since that was YOUR allegation, NOT mine.

    And yes, YOUR ongoing FAILURE to do so makes YOU the Science Denier.

    Priceless!

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    I have provided phase 3 trial results. I have shown it has been used safely for months under an EUA. I have supported the safety. You should read the information I’ve provided. You could use the education.

    You have claimed it is not safe. It is now your turn to present evidence to back your claim. Go...

    But you won’t because you can’t. There is no such evidence. You made an unsupportable claim as you often do.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    What you provided did NOT include any APPROVAL by the FDA for USE as a prophylactic.

    Your ONGOING failure to do so is YOUR problem, NOT mine.

    Nowhere did I make any claim that it was "unsafe". I stipulated that it MUST follow the standard SAFETY PROTOCOL for FDA approval in order to be approved for use as a prophylactic.

    That you need to nefariously DISTORT my posts says VOLUMES. :eek:

    Sad!
     
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    557 Well-Known Member

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    Of course not. I provided evidence it’s safe. Just as safe as the vaccines.

    Empirical evidence does not cease to be empirical evidence because something does or does not have FDA approval. Vaccines are still unlicensed yet you feel they are safe.

    Here is you claiming this product is unsafe.

     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that you are posting FALSEHOODS again.


    I am CLEARLY and UNEQUIVOCALLY stipulating that needlessly BYPASSING the FDA approval procedure is unsafe.

    NOWHERE did I mention YOUR precious prophylactic product.

    Sad that you CANNOT deal with the FACTUAL CONTENT that I have posted and PERSIST in nefariously making FALLACIOUS allegations that are easily DEBUNKED.

    :roflol:
     
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    You are essentially saying Covid vaccines are unsafe. The same safety data exists for them as this product. Both are being used under EUA. Your opinion is oddly interesting but irrelevant to the facts.
     
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    :roflol:

    Yet another bovine excrement STRAWMAN! :eek:

    Thank you for CONFIRMING that you are posting FALSEHOODS about what I have actually posted.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    There are no dangerous protocols in existence nor have any dangerous protocols been proposed. Period. If you feel there is danger, document it. Just saying a product with an EUA but no licensing is or could be a danger without documentation is just your unsubstantiated opinion. But I see that’s all you are ever going to have on this subject.

    At least you support EUA for vaccines. That’s a positive note. :)
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    That ALL you have are PUERILE bovine excrement STRAWMAN nonsense says VOLUMES! :eek:

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    Ah, you think phase 3 trial data is bovine excrement! Nice.

    I’m sure people who can’t benefit from vaccinations with the same safety record that are still unable to protect themselves with neutralizing antibodies are cheering you on.

    LOL
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Since ALL you have to offer is endless PUERILE STRAWMAN crap you have effectively DISQUALIFIED yourself ENTIRELY from any further meaningful interaction as far as I am concerned.

    SAD!

    Have a nice day!
     
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    Phase 3 trial data is meaningful. All the data on dosage, administration, efficacy, and safe use under EUA that I’ve provided is meaningful.

    You have supplied nothing but your fully unsubstantiated opinion. You have claimed one product used under the same EUA as another product is unsafe while the other is safe. But you can offer no data or logic to back that belief.

    Why don’t you try and support your position with some facts? Oh, you can’t? I’m shocked!

    LOL
     
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    BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA!

    More puerile blathering bovine excrement FALSEHOODS!

    Your prior FAILED attempts at MISQUOTING the ACTUAL content of my posts proves that you are 100% WRONG again.

    Sad!

    :roflol:
     
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    Again, I’m glad you are having a good time while immunocompromised individuals remain unprotected unnecessarily.

    It is sad. For people who could benefit.
     
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    That you PERSIST in posting ASININE falsehoods is amusing.

    What is SAD that is that cannot REFRAIN from posting FALSEHOODS.
     
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    Everything I post is backed by empirical evidence which I’ve provided.
     
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    Everything you posted about me was either a STRAWMAN or a FALSEHOOD as established by the empirical evidence in the CONTENT of your posts.

    Sad!
     
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    No. I posted empirical evidence (science) you deny. It’s not about you, it’s about the people who are not being permitted to use this product that has great lifesaving potential. Your opposition to that is on display here as well as your inability to base that opposition on any evidence.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!

    Yet more asinine FALSEHOODS!

    Priceless!

    :roflol:
     
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    Perhaps while you ponder EUA for vaccines, EUA for monoclonal antibodies as treatment, and the lack of EUA for monoclonal antibodies for protecting those with immune deficiency, you could spend a little time comparing what I’m proposing with the unapproved and unlicensed use of hormones as puberty blockers that you approve of. I’m hoping for more priceless response on your part.
     
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    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

    DESPERATION level egregious FALSEHOODS!

    Hilarious!

    :roflol:
     
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    Everything above is factual. Why do you support the use of one product with NO authorization or licensing but oppose granting EUA to another?
     
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    I see it on both sides. People are uncomfortable and this being a “comment site” feel compelled to pop off like middle school kids rather than constructively engage.
    The wife and I got our shots and so far no problems.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe it's just how a text-based communication medium influences the human psyche that so many of us abuse it like that. Or maybe a few bad apples more easily spoil the bunch on such a medium. I feel that the lack of face-to-face is a big factor, anyway.
     
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    Non stop FALSEHOODS and STRAWMAN again!

    :roflol:
     

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