The Delta variant will cause 'very dense outbreaks' in these five states, expert says

LOL. All true. You support use of one unapproved treatment with no trials but reject another that has released phase 3 trial data.

 

Experts are always right. Like 2 million will die.

 

Another BOVINE ECREMENT falsehood that CANNOT substantiate with anything remotely CREDIBLE.

Sad!

 

How do you feel about a vaccine that did not follow the safety protocol and is not approved by the FDA?

 

The same way I feel about the prophylactic that 557 wants to have BYPASS the STANDARD FDA safety protocols with ZERO justification.

The need for EUA's has passed and now we need to RESUME applying the RIGOROUS drug approval safety protocols that have PROVEN to be effective against us experiencing potentially dangerous side effects.

 

The use of hormones as puberty blockers is not approved by the FDA. There have been no formal trials for their use in this manner. Yet you support their use in this manner. Fact.

Monoclonal antibodies have been in use longer than the vaccines under an EUA. They have released phase 3 trial data and applied for EUA as passive vaccines. You do not support granting EUA for use as passive vaccine to protect those who can not receive the Covid vaccines. Fact.

Now is where you should offer evidence to the contrary. But you won’t because you can’t. The empirical evidence all contradicts your unsubstantiated opinions.

 

Yet another ABSURD FALSEHOOD!

https://www.seattlechildrens.org/pdf/PE2572.pdf

At least you get points for being CONSISTENTLY WRONG with ALL of YOUR unsubstantiated opinions!

Priceless!

 

You are factually incorrect. Precocious puberty is not dysphoria. LOL

Now more facts. Hormones have never been trialed by NIH, FDA or anyone else as blockers for dysphoria. They have no FDA approval for use in dysphoria. None. Only for precocious puberty.

FROM YOUR LINK.

Thank you for providing evidence what I’ve said is true.

You crack me up. You should read your links. LOL

 

You disingenuously MOVED the GOALPOSTS again because you FAILED to credibly SUBSTANTIATE your BS allegation about the actual FDA's approval of puberty blockers for CHILDREN!

The FDA is concerned with the SAFETY of the DRUGS themselves.

WHICH patients receive the APPROVED drugs is NOT a matter for the FDA.

But THANKS for CONFIRMING yet AGAIN that you have completely DISQUALIFIED yourself as having any meaningful contribution on this topic as far as I am concerned.

SAD!

I will stick with those have ACTUAL subject matter KNOWLEDGE when it comes to having civil discussions.

Have a nice day!

 

Too late for that.

 

Hormones are not FDA approved for use in dysphoria. Nor have they been trialed. That was my original claim. I’ve moved no goal posts. You supplied factually incorrect information. All my information is verified factual.

Since you support use of unapproved and untrialed drugs for dysphoria you certainly would approve of using drugs with existing EUA and comprehensive trialing for people at risk of dying from Covid because they can not be vaccinated, correct? Or do you just support drugs you “like” regardless of facts?

Your approach to deciding what drugs are safe seems to be whether you personally like them or not. Wow.

 

I have never advocated for bypassing any safety protocol. I’ve advocated for treating passive vaccines the same as traditional vaccines.

You are now advocating for stopping vaccination for Covid completely. Vaccines can only be given under EUA and none will likely receive full licensing until next year.

Your ideas are nuts.

 

If you don't catch COVID you will not be exposed to the risks of COVID
however
If you get vaccinated you are 100% exposed to the risks of the unapproved vaccine.

It takes about 3 weeks for COVID to either end in recovery or death, and you posted your claims about 3 weeks ago, so, let's test your predictions.

You claimed that Arkansas, Mississippi and Wyoming would be among the leading edge COVID cases. So, were you correct or did you face plant? Let's go to the data:

It looks like you are buns up here:
AR has 0.91% of the population but only 0.24% of the active cases
MS has 0.89% of the population but only 0.16% of the active cases
WY has 0.17% of the population but only 0.02% of the active cases
So not one of these states is overrepresented by their COVID cases, in fact, all are substantially UNDERrepresented.

Now lets look at some Blue states whose efforts you applaud holding them up as the standard for the Red States to follow:

CA has 11.86% of the population but, 34.26% of the active COVID cases!
VA has 2.56% of the population but, 12.21% of the active cases
MD has 1.82% of the population but, 8.77% of the active cases
WA has 2.29% of the population but, 4.55% of the active cases
RI has 0.32% of the population but, 2.79% of the active cases.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Your source and your claims have been shown to be fake news. I urge you to apologise and retract them.

 

Delta Smelta

‘Let’s Stop the Panic’ Over Delta Variant Says Medical Doctor. “You’re more likely to get murdered in Chicago (18 murders per 100,000 people) than a senior citizen is to be hospitalized for the Wuhan Flu (2.9 per 100,000), Delta variant or no Delta variant.”

Yet the Left Wing Fear Mongers never say squat about all the violence in Chicago. Why is that?

 

You ignore a hell of a lot when you just look at "blue states" and simple percentages. I imagine that's precisely why you're doing that.

Second, "if you don't catch COVID" is a very big "if". With delta and other such variants now spreading, your chances of catching it increase.

Third, the vaccines are tested and approved, albeit with emergency use authorization. That does not mean they are unsafe or untested, but that they haven't been through the entire process that vaccines normally go through, which is exhaustive. The risk from the vaccines is so much lower than the risk of catching COVID without being vaccinated that there is simply no comparison.

 

Senior House Republican Steve Scalise finally gets Covid vaccine as Delta drives up cases

The senator said the increase in Delta variant coronavirus cases encouraged him to get the shot

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ise-vaccinated-pfizer-louisiana-b1888261.html​

Just do the right thing, people. You're not going to keel over from taking one of the vaccines, but you or someone you come into contact with may if you don't. Not getting vaccinated is like stubbornly having unprotected sex with different people.

 

Your claim is still fake news and your source's prediction is falsified.

If you want to look at other Blue states, what is stopping you? You claimed that these three red states would be at the forefront of a new wave and facts have proved that claim to be laughable. WY has less than 800 cases in the entire state.

CA has 1,733,379 active cases. They have over a 1/3rd of the active cases with only an 1/8th of the population, yet, you and the Fake News folks never say squat.

No it isn't. 8/9 Americans haven't caught it.

More fake news. They are UNAPPROVED with an emergency use authorization. If they were approved emergency use authorization would be unnecessary.

They have not completed the research necessary to be deemed safe and/or effective, that is why they remain unauthorized. The FDA is awaiting further information as are many Americans.

The Vaccine Manufacturers would not even make the vaccines without a grant of immunity for harm from the vaccine because they were uncertain how much harm they would cause. Congress granted them this immunity. If it is now certain that the vaccines are safe, then Dems should prove it by repealing this grant of immunity.

You seem quite confident that is true, but do facts and evidence bear that out? It's not clear to me that it does.

There was an 11% chance that we would catch COVID over the last 19 months. Now that the vaccinated + recovered population totals 60% am I more at risk, or less? You quite confidently proclaimed MORE! But, is that something that is obvious from the data? It's not clear to me that it is.

Of the active cases today, only 0.1% are "Serious". Even presuming I remain at a 11% risk, which there are good reasons to doubt, that means I'm at 0.01% risk of a "Serious" case of COVID. Reported Vaccine injuries are running 0.3% or 30 times that.

If I get vaccinated, I'm 100% exposed to 0.3% risk.
If I don't get vaccinated, I have a 89% chance of zero risk.
If I do catch it I have a 99.9% chance that my case will not be serious, and, it is looking more and more like natural immunity is much stronger and more durable than vaccine immunity. Folks that caught SARS 1 (COVID is SARS 2) are still completely immune, 2 decades later.

Some of the loudest mouths for the vaccine, also knew full well that it was manmade and escaped from the Chinese Bioweapons Lab and that we helped fund the research. Many of them knew it, and they mostly all kept their mouths shut. Now, another part of the same community claims that they whipped up the antidote for what the other part of the community created, and we should all trust them and pull our sleeves up for the jab. It's quite unclear to me why you have so much confidence in their claims. For now, I'll continue to exercise care, stay in consultation with my doctor and allow the data to continue to accumulate.

Generally, these viruses become more infectious and less deadly as time passes, but, this may be our first pandemic with a manmade agent so we cannot be certain that it will progress according to our historical experience.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

 

How is not getting the vaccine comparable to having unprotected sex with a bunch of people?

Not getting the vaccine puts YOU at risk from others. Vaccinated people should be all good (since the vaccine is said to lower the severity of the virus if one does contract it).

Having unprotected sex with a bunch of people transfers germs in both directions. Plus, it's nasty.

 

Not getting the vaccines puts everyone at risk, since you can catch the virus and spread it regardless of whether or not you have symptoms or are personally at mortal risk from it. So that's how. It's like getting HIV and spreading it around before you develop AIDs and find out that you have it.

 

The vaccine is said to decrease the severity of the virus if one contracts it, right? In that equation the one assuming the higher risk is the unvaccinated person.

 

Oh yes, that is absolutely true.

Of course, children under 12 aren't eligible for vaccines yet, so there's that to consider.

 

The Texas delegates proved you can be vaccinated and catch and spread the virus.

 

Your repetitious FALSEHOODS and STRAWMEN are becoming TIRESOME!

SAD that you have NOTHING of any actual VALUE to CONTRIBUTE.

Having DISQUALIFIED yourself on SEVERAL occasions you have EARNED a one way trip to Cyberia.

Have a nice life!

 

They proved that having been VACCINATED they were NOT suffering from the effects of the virus.

Those DYING from the virus NOW are BEGGING for the vaccine only to be told that at that stage it is TOO LATE for the vaccination to help them.

Obviously the CONCEPT of how vaccinations WORK is hard for Science DENIERS to comprehend.

Sad!

 

So? What’s your yell typing point?