The End of RT America

What would it matter?

Each print has a digital counterpart, NYtimes, Wapo, WSJ, Foreign Policy, Time, Newsweek, etc.

Same goes for Broadcast Networks and Cable.

 

Yet they post Trump thread after Trump thread every day a year after the election
The absolute perfect example of how disconnected the left is from reality right there

 

It'll the alphabet soup media long before it kills fox. Buy the way what the hell is RT?

 

Nice story, for a slow day.

 

So no answers hunh?

 

Don't recall either one of those joining in the overturning of our democracy.

 

Enough said.

 

So no answer?

 

Don't recall FOX either but back to your tolerance of propaganda the MSM hit that already. They started the day Trump took office by working with the Clinton campaign to publicize it's phony Russia collusion hoax with it's propaganda.

 

No one tried to overturn our democracy, not possible in any case since we are a Republic. And the attempts to I er throw our election procedures occurred in the weeks leading up to the election. And have continued space ever since as the government tries to silence or arrest or both anyone who doubts their attempt to completely corrupt the election process.

 

Are you trying to convince me, or yourself of this fiction?

 

The OP had links, I'm sorry if you're too lazy to click on them.

 

I'm probably Liberal-light, but this resonates. It is actually shocking to me what is unfolding right before our eyes. I never would have guessed anybody, and I mean ANYBODY, siding with our enemies over our country or POTUS.

I don't like Trump even a little bit but I acknowledged him as my POTUS (even when he said he only cares about his supporters) and, push to come to shove, I would stand behind him because I'm pro-America and pro-American. I don't have to like the guy in the Oval Office to support my country. It's a damn shame that anybody would throw out their own stated values to do anything counterproductive and counterintuitive to that regardless of the letter behind the Commander-in-Chief's name.

 

Given Fox's ratings I'd say CNN and MSNBC are closer to extinction.

 

He wasn't talking about the mindless fanaticism that makes fox so popular with the trump party [nevermind Tucker and his lover of mother Russia]. He was asking when people are going to get a grip on reality and reject fox and the like.

Fox reminds me of the success of Dumb and Dumber.

But then when you consider people who are looking for facts, more people get their news from CNN than any other source.



Even though Fox News is the most-watched television news station, CNN’s online presence is more than twice the size of Fox News’s. Just some raw data:

1. According to SimilarWeb, CNN is the most-visited news site in the United States, with almost 800 MILLION VISITORS TO THEIR WEBSITE. Their top 100 ranking has them beat out only by news aggregators and Indian Media outlets. Fox News is the 2nd one, clocking in at 16th place, according to the rankings.

https://www.quora.com/Do-more-people-get-their-news-from-CNN-than-any-other-source


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Acknowledging a POTUS doesn't mean backing him to the hilt no matter what he does. The whole idea of America is that "We the People" are the ones in charge. Our President is our employee, not our King and once he acts against the law it is our duty as citizens to kick him out, convict him and incarcerate him if that's called for.

"My country right or wrong" goes great in whatever fascist satrapy you call home but America is different and we like being that way.

 

I won't argue that fox news promotes right wing propaganda. CNN and MSNBC do the same for the left. All three are propaganda networks. Not surprising though, all three are run by corporation where the bottom line is the most important thing. All 3 must keep their viewership happy and in order to do that, they slant, bend and multilate the news to suit their audiance. Conservatives graviatate to Fox, liberals to CNN and MSNBC, that way they get the news from the point of view they want. What they don't get is the news in a full, fair and accurate manner.

 

If I'm understanding you correctly, we are on opposite sides of this issue.

I don't care how horrible Trump was as President. I'm not going to side with another country's POTUS over my own.

I don't care how senile (I don't believe he's senile) Biden is. I'm not going to side with another country's POTUS over my own.

I don't care how they chooses to spin it. There is absolutely NO reason, justification, rationalization or honor in ignoring our President doing nothing to help the Capitol police officers. AU, these people are siding with the **CRIMINALS** in that situation. That's a huge problem, dude.

 

Just stating the fact what are you denying it or something? The MSM was full in with the Russia hoax propaganda and had post retractions.

 

What ARE you talking about? I'm sorry but it seems I am misunderstanding your referent. (that can happen here, even short threads can be unwieldy, more so long ones) Would you be kind enough to repeat it please?

 

Yeah, I don't think so.

 

Sure, AU. Thanks for asking for clarification rather than assuming what I meant.

You wrote this...




I read your first sentence to mean that you do not advocate that we (We, the People) stand behind our president 100% across the board solely because our elected officials work for us.

I don't disagree that we should question, require and challenge our elected officials to represent our interests, answer to us and be held accountable for his (or her) decisions in carrying out their duties as Commander-in-Chief.

Where I diverge from your POV (or what I thought you meant) is it's acceptable to put any other country and/or it's leader above our own in cases where conflict of interests and possible engagement of war seem murky.



For examples...

While I understand that former POTUS Trump is unhappy that he was not re-elected, he has spent every moment since election day not only being a whiny baby about the loss, he has actively worked to undermine and deepen the toxic divide he created in our country. Trump has proven himself unwilling and possibly incapable of putting our country, Constitution and our people above his personal drama over losing the election.

Trump can concurrently hate Biden, continue to lie about election fraud and cheat his supporters out of money but I draw the line when he praises Putin (both when he chose him over our own intelligence and when Putin invaded Ukraine without provocation).

Trump can walk off his job to campaign full-time and lie to his supporters at superspreader events for the purpose of manipulation and grifting, but I draw the line when he effusively praises Xi who was blocking investigators from the Wuhan Lab and COVID and its variants were running rampant throughout the country.

Trump supporters can believe he's infallible and untouchable, shake their piggy banks for him all day, every day and be hateful to those of us that don't think highly of him, but I draw the line when they side with him and the criminals in the Capitol riot. Five Capitol police officers and hundreds of others were injured that day and rather than call to task the person responsible for that, they flipped the script that they aren't really all that big on "Law and Order" and their POTUS is somehow excused from his own declaration of being a "Law and Order" president.

How can any active law enforcement officer feel safe in their duties when they will always have that scene burned in their memory?

How can they do that knowing their own president did nothing, his supporters ignored it and he is calling for more riots if he finally gets his rightful due in court and as sentenced to prison?

And, the fact that anybody is cool with that presents a very clear and present danger to all of us.

 

You are denying the MSM was reporting the Russia hoax as fact when there were never any facts to back it up?

 

All of Robert Mueller’s indictments and plea deals in the Russia investigation
The investigation is now complete.

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their lengthy investigation.

That group is composed of six former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Seven of these people (including five of the six former Trump advisers) have pleaded guilty.
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For a "hoax", they sure nabbed a lot of folks doing wrong things. Real coinky-dink that six were former Trump advisors, dontcha think?

 

OIC, Agreed, Not in all respects and particulars but details do not bother Artistes like myself.