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The Entirely Königsberg Territory as the Free Trade Zone

Discussion in 'Russia & Eastern Europe' started by Ostap Bender, Dec 20, 2011.

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Interesting why Königsberg do not have statute a Free Economic Zone until now.The GDP of it could be higher as of Moscow or Sanct Petersburg

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    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    1) Kaliningrad since 1945.
    2)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_GDP
    Moscow Russia $ 321
    St Petersburg Russia $ 91
    Madrid Spain $ 230
    Berlin Germany $ 95
    London United Kingdom $ 565
     
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  3. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Koningsbergen (Königsberg in German) needs to become a integral part of Germany and European Union once again. There is no "Russian" link whatsoever.

    House of the Soviets?! :fart:
     
    janpor, Dec 21, 2011
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    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    Belgium needs to be tzar-bombed twice a day, until it's population will grow some brains in order not to write dumb things.
     
    KGB agent, Dec 21, 2011
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  5. janpor

    janpor Well-Known Member

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    Something isn't "dumb" just because you don't agree with it.

    Not to mention you have track record of small-mindedness , KGB_Agent.
     
    janpor, Dec 21, 2011
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  6. KGB agent

    KGB agent Well-Known Member

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    Correct. Something is dumb because it is dumb. Only stupid person can't see the link between "Nazi scum *cought*German*cought* invaded USSR and committed mass crimes against humanity", "Nazi scum *cought*German*cought* got it's ,sorry, ass kicked" and "Kalingrad is Russian territory now".
    Wrong again. Try harder.
     
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    janpor Well-Known Member

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    KGB_Agent,

    I'm sorry to say buy you have a proven track record of being small-minded,...

    I don't like you any less because of it, but let us keep it honest -- shall we? :handshake:

    Merry Christmas to you and your family,...

    Regards,

    Jan

    :peace:
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    if you want to be 100% fair, use the Prussian geographic terms instead of German-genocide terms like - Königsberg
     
    litwin, Dec 21, 2011
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Better Königseberg will became a Part of EU and get money from Bruxelles, but not from Germany, because it is already enough "satisfied" with rebuilding of DDR.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Do not forget our "tzar-bombs"!
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Some Putin's admirers knows nothing except treating with bombs and promising of gaz shortage.:mrgreen:
    Unfortunately dumb Putin's regime can not grasp that if Königsberg will became a free trade zone it will have more as a quoter of all Russian tax incomes as a Russian Hong Kong.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    do you think that Germany´d get this territory?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    <<<Mod edit: Insult removed>>>

    Firstly, there's no Königsberg, and has not been one for over 60 years. Secondly, there's a Special Economic Zone in the Kaliningrad oblast that continuously exists since the beginning of nineties, and provides for the number of economic benefits for both the residents and foreigners, doing business in the region. Did you know that you can apply for, and receive a 12 years long tax holiday and there is a Federally mandated customs regime, fully compatible with that of all other Free Economic Zones? How do I know that? I had a Joint Venture with the Russkies there between 1992 and 2003 (incidentally only the #2 Joint Venture, ever registered in Kaliningrad Oblast)

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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Germany do not need this territory because it is tired to pay for DDR till now. BTW if Königsberg would be really a Free Trade Zone, without mafia, corruption, too much laws and greedy officials, it would be already the most prosper area among the Baltic States.
     
    Ostap Bender, Dec 22, 2011
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no, and never again will there be Königsberg, so stop having wet dream, capiche? And what do you really know about mafia and corruption to speak about with such an authority? Where you part of it? Doubt... :mrgreen:
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Also, do you prefer the name of Communist Murder Kalinin instead of Königsberg?

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    According to your logic the name of Communist Murder Kalinin ( right ) who approved killing of Millions innocent peoples is better?

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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't really care one way or another; I've talked about Kaliningrad for decades without giving another though about meaning of the name - it is what it is. On the other hand, it is up to the people of Kaliningrad to petition the government to have the name changed. If they do it, so be it.
     
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    Königsberg already was Russian city during several years in result of Seven Years' War. But unfortunately after the death of Elizabeth of Russia, at 1762 as the Russian emperor have become her fool nephew Peter III which has presented back this city to Frederick the Great. Fortunately the wife of Peter III, the future Russian empress Catherine the Great, has strangled her idiot husband, otherwise he'd present something to somebody else.
     
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    Potap, that doesn't mean anything. Germany occupied Belgium the last century for a total of about 8 years -- it didn't make us German or something.

    I think we can all agree that the problem in all of thos is Russia itself. Why are the surrounding areas doing so well and have far better standard of living that people nowdays have if Köningsberg?!

    Köningsberg could be a new Dresden -- totally rebuilt and restored in her former glory. Instead of silly, ugly and inane Soviet/Russian architecture monstrocities à la House of the Soviets. :???:
     
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    Why won't Russians give Königsberg back to Germany?

    Isn't Russia big enough or something?!

    They could have it, in exchange for everything West from the Urals! :mrgreen:

    :laughing:
     
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    an independent state? then you Hong Kong reference is wrong

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organised_crime_in_Hong_Kong

    "The name most associated with organised crime within Hong Kong is the many branches of Chinese underground society and organizations known as the Triads."
     
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    and Moscow was occupied many times so what? lame example
     
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  23. Potap

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    1. Pay attention: at 1762 Frederick the Great has got Königsberg as a gift of idiot Peter III. If this idiot would not be Russian emperor during a half of a year this city would be Russian already from the middle of XVIII century.
    2. Let's reconsider all European and world borders. For example let Lithuania will give back Klaip&#279;da (former German Memel) together with Königsberg. Let Estonia will give us Narva and Tartu (former Russian Yuryev). Let Poland will give back Silesia and Pomerania. Let the USA will give back us Alaska. I do not know in what way we'll divide Belgium: to give Belgium in structure of Netherlands, or to give it back to France. What do you prefer? Let's revive Ottoman empire. Let's give to it Greece, Bulgaria, and all near East. Though it is quite fair to give back to Italians all Mediterranean land and to revive Roman empire. Why to reconsider the results of the WW II only, let's reconsider the results of all wars: Thirty Years' War, Hundred Years' War, Punic Wars and so on. How do you see this problem?
     
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    Potap Well-Known Member

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    I'll repeat to you again: Peter III has presented Königsberg to Frederick the Great, while the population of this city have recognized Russian crown. Do you feel what is it?
     
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    its only because Peter III could not keep it,
     
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