The Entirely Königsberg Territory as the Free Trade Zone

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  1. Potap

    Potap Well-Known Member

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    Peter III was unable to keep something, including own crown because of the stupid head. This why he was the emperor only during for a half of an year and he has caused the courtiers conspiracy against him. Gifts which he presented to Frederick were one of the reasons of this conspiracy. Even Elizabeth understood he was unable to rule the state.
     
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    he did not have it, so he could give it as a "gift", we are far away from the subject , whats your opinion about K:s future?
     
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    It is interestingly, why I'm to prove to you historic facts? We can discuss Interpretation of the facts only. But you cannot cancel the fact, even if you do not know about its existence. Read books describing seven-year war at last. This is my advice to you. There is a fact of the oath by the population of East Prussia. Even professors at local university were appointed by Russian officials. When Peter III have become Russian tsar, He has released the population from the oath, he has gave back all Russian gains at this war to Frederick and has signed with him the treaty of peace. This fact was one of the main reasons of plot against him. I am surprised I’m to prove to you such things.
    As to future of Kaliningrad. Of course we must present it to Lithuania. No doubts.
     
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    the map form 1773
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    how could you possible control East Prussia?

    Lithuania said No to such a "present" in 70s, im sure that today ´d be the same answer
     
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    Everyone can see what Potap is trying to do here...

    Lithuania is the only Baltic country with a very small Russian minority -- that would change if Konigsberg is added to the country.

    The Baltics never will be part of Russia or from Russiosphere ever again.

    Koningsberg ought to go back to Germany or to Poland.
     
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    Just vice-versa, in Lithuania, Russian language is considered second only to the primary language of Lithuania.
    In Lithuania, the most democratic attitude to Russian and Polish.
    Lithuania makes good money for transit to Kaliningrad.
     
  7. Potap

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    East Prussia has always been an enclave. What a difference for you, the enclave of what country is it, Germany or Russia? As by the end of XVIII century Rzeczpospolita has ceased to exist.
     
  8. Potap

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    Lithuania is a part of Russia? Thanks a lot for such gift, but let EU feeds them. Today is your turn to feed Lithuania, we fed them already the last time. Also I think it is dangerous to give Kaliningrad to Poland. What if Poland will start to request to be included in structure of Russia? What shall we do in this case with such huge crowd of people with the inflated self-importance?
    I have other idea. It is necessary to present Kaliningrad to Belgium. After that to include Belgium in Structure of Russia. Putin will become the Belgian tsar, and I'll ask him to make me governor of the Belgian Flanders. How do you like this?
     
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    And Kem parish,too! :mrgreen:
     

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