The final days of Iran's tyrants

And yet, we're always there.

 

We have been since the Cold War ended

And it may be that the critics are correct and we should concentrate on our most vital national interests and let radical islam have the piss-ant countries

But that also means zero immigration or refugees from those places

Oddly enough though it seems that many people want a more interconnected world rather than less

Its a difficult question all around

 

We're bombing 7 nations, we like this stuff. It's just business, the empire cannot stand without economically colonizing others.

 

We are fighting radical islam

Fighting badly in some cases, but the threat is real

 

You aren't "vighting" anything at all, hell, you partner with Wahabists.

 

Its called the lessor of two evils

The US fought with the Soviets in WWII

 

Ha ha ha ha, the empire cannot prop itself up without endless wars of profiteering and the economic colonization of other lands even as it economically cannibalizes society and it's own people at home to maintain expansion.

 

LOLOL.. You ever met a Wahhabi?

 

What does that have to do with our arming them with the internationally illegal cluster bombs known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field that they rain down on Yemen? [Insert Jr Highish acronym here]

 

That is a very warped representation of reality

 

There's no evidence of that.

And your claim that Iran's government is in its final days is a little premature.

 

And you're a water carrier for the iranian regime, despite you not being a "citizen of iran."

How's that excuse you're working on, are you polishing it up and getting it ready for the forum readership?

 

Sure there isn't...it was so, so hard to google this info, wasn't it?

1) http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/world/meast/irans-nuclear-capabilities-fast-facts/index.html

"August 2003 - The IAEA announces that its inspectors in Iran have found traces of highly enriched uranium at the Natanz uranium enrichment plant."

"November 8, 2011 - The IAEA releases a report saying that it has "serious concerns" and "credible" information that Iran may be developing nuclear weapons."

"May 25, 2012 - An IAEA report finds that environmental samples taken at the Fordo fuel enrichment plant near the city of Qom have enrichment levels of up to 27%, higher than the previous level of 20%."

August 30, 2012 - A United Nations report finds that Iran has stepped up its production of high-grade enriched uranium and has re-landscaped Parchin, one of its military bases, in an apparent effort to hamper a UN inquiry into the country's nuclear program."

2) http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/02/world/iran-nuclear-deal-parameters/index.html

"Iran has agreed to reduce its current stockpile of about 10,000 kg of low-enriched uranium (LEU) to 300 kg of 3.67 percent LEU for 15 years."

I didn't claim it, a person INSIDE IRAN did. Sounds like someone is rooting for the iranian regime...are you?

 

Considering that wahabbism is the platform upon which ISIS and AQ and the rest of the alphabet base their perverted sick ideology on.

It was the Saudis spreading such orthodoxy throughout the muslim world that has given rise to these scumbags. And yet KSA is considered a good guy ally in the war against Islamists - who they themselves nurtured.

All because of oil. If there was no oil, KSA would be nothing more than a giant sand box.

 

Quite the opposite. Obama and our allies stopped all development of nuclear weapons.

 

KSA has paid for many madrassas in Pakistan where public educate is almost nil.. These madrassas teach reading, writing, arithmatic, geography and the Koran to boys between the ages of 6 and 11 when most Pakistani boys go to work. The schools are small. One teacher, fewer than 20 students..

Of course the insta-pundits who arrived at Fox News post 9-11 had to have something sensational to talk about... and they counted on the rubes not to know anything about Saudi Arabia or the Wahhabis.

 

Right. Which China and Russia are not concerned about. This just bought them time. A nuclearized North Korea keeps the US out. This is what’s obvious to (almost) everybody.

 

Delayed not stopped

And maybe not even that since iran is working with north korea

 

It is onvious to me which is why Insupport war with north korea as a last resort

 

Well I ain't a rube. I am more familiar than most non muslims with Islamic sectarian doctrine and anyway you want to slice it wahhabism encourages jihad (religious war). Its orthodoxy is at the root of islamist ideology and that isn't really debatable. It provides the religious justification for violence of many kinds against virtually anyone that doesn't adhere to it. INCLUDING fellow muslims.

As for teaching kids reading and writing etc. Of course they do but their PRIMARY objective to teach Tafseer and hadith fiqh. Between the wahabbis and the deobandis et.al preaching such orthodoxy they are culpable for fostering radic lism and promoting sectarian oppression.

Since Islam is inextricably entwined with the social, economic and governance of life within their nations, such orthodox and aggressive religious interpretations are pervasive amongst the populace AND its institutions.

I realize you wish to emphasize the good aspects of Islamic society and teachings and there is lots to recommend it, but those aspects are vastly outweighed by its negatives and the actions and calamities that arise from those negatives.

 

Rumors are that the CIA and Mossad have fomented the discontented element, of which every society consists. The CIA is notorious for such covert actions. (as is Soros)

Equally large crowds have rallied in support of the administration. Where is the truth? Somewhere in the middle and difficult to find.

 

ISIS recruits from ignorant misfits, drunks and drug addicts who know NOTHING about their religion.. That's why they can be sold a load of crap and call it Islam. Boko Haram, Al Shaabab, and AQ do the exact same thing. They are NOT Wahhabis .. They aren't even barely descent Muslims.

 

No stopped. But then removal of the equipment necessary to produce the bomb AND international verification protocols isn't sufficient for some. Seems just the "possibility" of Iranian actions in the 2030's is sufficient to scrap the agreement in some small minds.

 

yes I agree with such excoriation if not your dismissal of the role of wahabbism in fostering such scumbags.

 

I lived around them for many years and they are NOTHING like what is portrayed by the Western pundits.. They are like Calvanists.. Their version of Islam is simple, pared down, conservative, family oriented, but still compassionate. They are NOT nationalistic.. They were never colonial subjects.