The final days of Iran's tyrants

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  1. jimmy rivers

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    https://www.upi.com/Top_News/Voices...-of-Irans-tyrants/4981515009973/?spt=slh&or=4

    "Jan. 3 (UPI) -- Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Iranian supreme leader, blames the uprising in his country on "enemies of Iran." He is mistaken.

    People like me who openly support the brave protesters who risk their lives on the streets of that nation's villages, towns and cities are not the enemies of Iran. On the contrary, we are the friends of Iran and its beleaguered people. We are the enemies of the clerical tyrants who have driven that country to the brink of deprivation and despair over the past 39 years of oppression and corruption."

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    All sane people without an agenda, like the scumbag EU elites and their billion-dollar deals with the regime, the former obama officials whose appeasement of iran led to a fundamentally flawed nuclear weapons deal, the major media outlets like the NYT looking to protect both their beloved pet obama and their lucrative iran travel business, and hideous, despicable filth allies of the regime like putin the dog and chinas corrupt regime, want the people of iran to succeed in their efforts to overthrow the illegitimate mullah regime and achieve freedom and democracy.

    Had this overthrow come sooner it might have led to a better outcome for millions of syrians, with about 1 million dead and 10 million displaced refugees, whose blood is on the hands of iran for the most part.

    I imagine that once the iranian fake regime falls, the people of syria will finally rid themselves of assad, and the syrian people will want the iranian bastards who were responsible for the mass slaughter in syria to be brought to justice in syria, like mass hangings or firing squads, and I would not blame them one bit.
     
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    Iran's Revolutionary Guard fancies itself an empire... funding Houthi's, rebuilding Iraq and Syria, supporting the Palestinians all the while ordinary Iranians suffer under the yoke of 40% unemployment and increase in the cost of living.

    Will they listen or tighten their grip on the people....ironically the issue I have with Iran's Government, Khomeini, the clerics and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is the same issue Iranians have, their meddling in other countries. I look at Hezbollah's & Quds force drug empire with contempt... do they really believe there is any honour in what they are doing. It must go against every part of their religion yet they view us with such hatred they believe the end justifies the means. It is with a great deal of anger I regard Hezbollah's work, trying to peddle their filth on my doorstep where I'm raising my family. They have tarnished the Iranian people with this brush.

     
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    How interesting. The Ayatollah blames the enemies of Iran. The author blames the EU elite, the US and especially Obama. There's been NO progress here.. except Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons.
     
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    except Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons - yet

    But they will have
     
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    Maybe.. Reality is that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons.
     
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    Macron believes the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel may be moving the world to war - that means ww3?

    https://www.rt.com/news/414924-macron-iran-us-rhetoric-war/

    Russia says the US is trying to undermine the Iranian nucear deal which the US has not been properly adhering to anyway - one of the reasons keeping Iran without bread for the table and legit reasons to protest.

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...rotest-sink-nuclear-deal-180106062819950.html

    Reality is that under a Trump admin if US citizens were rioting, burning down banks, Churches and Synagogues, far far more people would have been killed. That simply is true Even in the UK where we do not believe in killing people 9 were killed during the riots and if the army had come in as May had asked it no doubt would have been many more. The UK got advice from the US after this and the advice was simply to kill anyone who looks like they may even start setting fire etc and that was before you had Trump.

    If the US undermines the Iran deal without destroying Iran first then of course Iran will have nukes for the eventual battle.
     
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    What hostile statements is Russia Today reporting?
     
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    No idea but the US did not succeed in destroying the Iran nuclear deal.





    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/05/russia-us-iran-un-emergency-session

    Interesting discussion at link.
     
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    Iran still doesn't have nuclear weapons..

    The Iran nuclear deal framework was a preliminary framework agreement reached in 2015 between the Islamic Republic of Iran and a group of world powers: the P5+1 (the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council—the United States, the United Kingdom, Russia, France, and China—plus Germany) and the European ...
    Iran nuclear deal framework - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework
     
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    I know that. What made you think I didn't? Trump was wanting to destroy the deal. I simply said he has not managed. I do not think the EU and the UK are going with Trump,Israel and Saudi Arabia on this.
     
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    I can't predict what will happen.. I know the Saudis didn't believe Iran would live up to the agreement... nor did the Israelis, but my hope is that it will work. If Trump kills the agreement, Saudi Arabia has to move quickly to develop nuclear weapons... and should.
     
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    I think Trump is alone in trying to kill the agreement so if he and Israel and Saudi Arabia make a move on Iran I suspect it is going to be against the UN. Trump has now been defeated resoundingly twice, on this and Jerusalem. Trump Israel and Saudi Arabia are simply looking for an excuse for war with Iran and they are on their own.
     
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    You're wrong, alexa.. KSA doesn't want a war with Iran.. They will be NO WINNERS in a war like that.

    Israel doesn't want a ground war in Iran..

    It may be up to what Trump wants, and he's so stupid that becomes very scary.

    Trump has NO will or skill for diplomacy.
     
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    Yes there will be no winners. I am not going to comment on KSA.

    For years regarding Israel ,war with Iran including nuking Iran, the military have been against but the Politicians in favour - that may have been because they believed they needed the US as well. From what I am reading Netanyahu is now a dove in the Israeli Parliament.

    Trump just seems to be intent on doing what he says he is going to do. His withdrawal of aid to Pakistan, the Palestinians and Refugees is in itself going to create world changing scenarios. Remember Trump is the one who asked 'why can't we use nukes'. Most politicians don't keep half the election promises they make. While the only thing which could stop people tearing their hair out about Trump was that he hopefully would not keep his promises, those around him are making sure he does. What did he say on Iran?
     
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    For decades Iran has said that if anyone, including Israel or the US, moved against them they would first bomb the Saudi oilfields.

    Israel has said the same thing in the past. They threatened to bomb KSA if NIxon didn't resupply them during the Yom Kippur war.
     
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    Well I don't know about that but they are trying to let people know they will not be an Iraq. I was on youtube last week and for some reason this video on Iran came up explaining all their military capability. Iran has been threatened for so long she must have developed a 'best plan'.
     
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    All's well - Trump's hostile intervention will discredit any opposition to anyone else, anywhere. It's a gift!
     
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    Why does this make me think back to the Suez Crisis that immediately triggered the complete end of the British Empire. Israel and France were part of that military disaster too.

    Perhaps Macron remembers his history?
     
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    It is not that hard to put a crude nuke together, and Iran does not have a nuke because they chose not to have it at this point in time, sanctions or not notwithstanding.

    Oh... and no country has nuke until they test one. Iran may have a dozen nukes for all we know, ready to be unveiled to the world.
     
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    Iran has been two steps away from a nuke for as long as I have been on forums. I read a few years ago a very good take by an American/Iranian how this was all bluster. Then at some time Iran was genuinely willing to make friends with the US and the US only said No. I seem to remember that at the time of this deal they thought they were maybe a year or so away - that was intelligence including cyber spying.

    Iran says she does not have nukes because destroying the world goes against her religion. Personally for a long time I have thought they would be absolute Idiots if they did not have the ability to create them in 5 minutes but of course that would go against the whole idea of them which is deterrence so I have to imagine she does not have them. What I imagine she does have though is very thorough intelligence about how to make you all 'think again'.
     
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    Indeed on first, and bullshit on second. Iran will do what Iran wants to do, regardless if it is against their religion or not. And no sanctions, UN resolutions or World's opinion will be taken into consideration.
     
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    What world opinion. This is only US Israel and Saudi Arabia. The world, world opinion is against YOU
     
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    I do not think the World will like nuclear Iran, but Iran will not care. Is what I've meant.
     
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    If North Korea has them, so does Iran.....it's that simple.
     
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    No its not. North Korea has been very definite that it was building them. Both Obama and the British Government said they most definitely did not have them and we are by far the best spies.
     

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