The Handmaid's Tale

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Agreed. Both racist and misandrist. I've called on plenty of people's comments that were misogynistic and never been punished for doing so. However, try telling a "feminist" she's being misandrist and you'll see your posts edited or deleted.

    From my observations of such things, I doubt it's the report of just one person, but a "swarm" which compels a reaction.
     
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    Translation: We have a right to hate disrespect white males, dammit!

    Let's not forget that over 50% of voters are female. Let's not fault the "white males over 55" for how women vote in the privacy of the voting booth.
     
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    Back when men were men? lol
     
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    Silencing the truth doesn't make it go away. Thank you.
     
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    Agreed. Adults stand for truth and disavow BS regardless of gender.
     
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    Funny, but some people will take you seriously. It's not aptitude nor voter desires, it's the desires of those running for office. When I was in the military, I was a pilot. After the Tailhook '91 debacle a bunch of female Congressional Reps used it to push for more women as pilots in the Navy with the theory "women are 50% of the population, therefore 50% of Navy pilots should be women". That logic ended with the death of LT Kara Hultgreen. LT Hultgreen was a good pilot, but, due to politics, she was pushed into a position for which she was not ready. Additionally, the reason military pilots are not 50/50 women and men isn't because of male egos, prejudice or the lack of female abilities, but because of average female desires: women don't want to be combat pilots in the same numbers as men.

    LT Hultgreen was a solid pilot and had a great future as a Naval officer and aviator, but she was pushed into a position she barely qualified for due to feminist ideological politics.

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    Step back and look again. You just explained one reason why voters don't trust.
     
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    Dude, those of us white straight males who are married trust women. It's the feminist movement which has proven itself to be untrustworthy. They threw women under the bus to protect Bill Clinton just as they throw any woman who favors conservative values over the "feminist agenda". Please don't disrespect women like the self-labeled feminists claim to do.
     
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    You don't understand what I was explaining. This part of the thread was about complaints that women weren't equally represented in government. They weren't elected to office at the same rate as men. Since both men and women vote, neither women nor men trust most women running for office today. Whether that is because they are afraid of feminism or not, I don't know. The fact remains, men are elected at greater rates than women. Since we vote for those we think are going to be good for the country, what does that tell you?

    You're trying to make something out of nothing.
     
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    Correct. So the $64 question is "why"? IMHO, it's because women aren't as interested in running in the same numbers as men. Fewer women running, given that both male and female candidates follow a Bell Curve, means fewer qualified women run for office than qualified men. Yes, again, following the Bell Curve, there's a lot of unqualified men too but they are quickly eclipsed by qualified men through shear numbers. Fewer women means that feminists and other ideological genderists will, like with LT Hultgreen, will push relatively less qualified women to the top for the sake of "equality".
     
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    I disagree with this. It isn't they trust women or as you inferred, wives. It's more that they trust themselves...




     
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    The problem with fiction, sci-fi or otherwise, is that their has to be at least something believable about it. I can imagine a dystopian future with killer androids and evil mega corporations running the world and I can imagine a galactic civilization in another galaxy having hyperspace and laser swords. I can imagine that in hundreds of years humanity will be travelling between the stars and battling aliens with bumpy foreheads.

    In the case of Handmaiden's Tale the first two episodes I watched were so completely unbelievable and so far out there that I lost all interest because it isn't even remotely believable. If you want to watch a great TV series about a secret organization wiping out and taking over the government that isn't the fevered dreams of some hyperbolic writer then watch Designated Survivor. This trash is not worthy of a TV series. I throw it in the same category as Atlas which is the "Who actually likes this crap?"
     
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    I can get on board with that being one reason. How many women claim to be feminists?

    http://thelala.com/believe-womens-equality-identify-as-feminist/

    Very few claim to be. On the other hand, 85% believe in equality. If 15% don't believe in equality, or what I believe is equality, the right to have the same opportunities as men, then something is wrong with the message, or their are other issues. I believe there are other issues.
     
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    Oddly enough, the book was required reading for some as part of their education.
     
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    Ummm, not sure if I'm following you there. Thank you very much for the Psych link: Here; it's a special interest of mine. Having been married a few times myself I have to agree with the conclusions. Both my wife and I were married before and, as the article notes, wanted to avoid the mistakes of the past. We were together for almost five years before actually marrying. I have no doubt we will be together "until death we do part".

    Back to the link; I agree with the conclusions for the most part. That "there is less glue holding the marriage together". Greater independence. It's put a whole new spin on "The Me Generation".

    The article ends with "Clearly there are many people who learn the lessons of their first divorce and move on to happy, long second marriages. But all the evidence suggests that it gets harder and harder to keep the show on the road as you move onto the next marriage. It is this trend that is reflected in recent divorce statistics."

    Most scientific papers end with something like "this subject area needs more research". While there is no reason to doubt his statistics, I do doubt his conclusions thus this subject area merits further investigation.
     
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    As you live and go through tragedies, you learn how easily and often they can happen. You realize your own failings and try to understand as much as you can about what happened and how to avoid it next time. Therefore, you don't necessarily trust that the statistics are going to be different than the norm, but you trust that you won't make the same mistakes. You, nor anyone can know what the other person will do. That pain is always right at the doorstep. You just didn't know before you felt it the first time. You must trust yourself, or you can't take the chance again.
     
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    Even freakier, Max, is that we change ourselves based on what we did wrong in that last relationship. Since everyone is different, what we did in that first one might not be seen as a bad thing in the second. Many excuses are used to justify actions. Some are valid, but many are only excuses, exaggerations or outright lies, depending on what is at stake and what one is willing to do. A cheater is a liar. Usually, as statistics show that most infidelity is never caught, they must be darn good at deception and lying or folks are way too trusting and don't check stories. Shaming tactics are used all the time on the betrayed, because the unfaithful know they(the betrayed) love them and trust them. That's why they get away with it so easily.
     
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    A good question. When the subject came up, I think many women shared the common goal of equal treatment for all just as the 14th Amendment states. However, when it became evident that those women who preferred to be stay-at-home Moms were treated by contempt by "feminists", the movement fractured. Hillary Clinton epitomized this difference with her infamous "chocolate chip cookies" gaff in response to being asked why she continued working as a lawyer while Bill was governor:

    “I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession, which I entered before my husband was in public life”
     
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    It appears to me that men who are abusers, cheaters, liars and such choose women who are malleable and easily intimidated since a strong, intelligent woman would spot him for what he is and tell him to go **** himself as she heads out the door.
     
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    Busy career. Nothing wrong with that. I wonder who they hired to raise their daughter? lol
     
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    That's assuming the man is the one cheating and abusing.
     
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    I hear Bill was partial to interns. :)
     
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    Usually it is, but that's obviously not 100%. From the stats below, it appears the rate of women cheating goes up when they go to work, especially on business trips.
    https://www.trustify.info/blog/infidelity-statistics-2017
    Infidelity Statistics
    • In over 1/3 of marriages, one or both partners admit to cheating.
    • 22% of men say that they've cheated on their significant other.
    • 14% of women admit to cheating on their significant other.
    • 36% of men and women admit to having an affair with a coworker.
    • 17% of men and women admit to having an affair with a sister-in-law or brother-in-law.
    • People who have cheated before are 350% more likely to cheat again.
    • Affairs are most likely to occur two years into a marriage.
    • 35% of men and women admit to cheating while on a business trip.
    • 9% of men admit they might have an affair to get back at a spouse.
    • 14% of women admit they might have an affair to get back at a spouse.
    • 10% of affairs begin online.
    • 40% of the time online affairs turn into real life affairs.
     
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    In real life, I find women to be more discreet than men when they talk with the opposite sex. Women will talk about it with each other, but rarely spread those things among men. There is a greater fear of not being trusted with men's secrets and being ostracized by their own gender, than there is among men.
     
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    There were always Insecure men threatened by having to share their privileges. Nothing new,
     

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