The Harris campaigh admits to lying about Project 2025 and Trump

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  1. Melb_muser

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    Like gerrymandering?
     
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    Spin? If you think reality is spin that's on you. If you think you won something, that too is on you. I said what I said, and it doesn't align with what you are claiming of me. No matter how much you pretend otherwise. You're just showing that you can't argue against what I said.
     
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    Yes, gerrymandering is one of many legal ways to rig an election and its legal to do. Both parties do it whenever they get the chance. Will you admit that?
     
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    You just can't fully admit you think it was stolen. You're playing games. Meh....that's on you. See my signature for why I won't waste more of my time ;)
     
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    Uhh no. Trump has always said that Roe v Wade should be State level (and it should be based on the constitution) while Trump has been vocal AGAINST project 2025.

    Project 2025 is the lame ass attempt by the left to obfuscate the reality that these last 4 years have been an absolute disaster under progressive policies.
     
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    He wrote the forward for the book release.
     
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    his supreme court picks said they would not overturn precedence, yet they did exactly that
     
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    Which Trump policies are NOT in P-25?
     
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    Not quite true. He wrote the forward for the book being released by the president of the Heritage Foundation Kevin Roberts called "Dawn's Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America". Which does admittedly espouse much the same things as Project 2025. However, Vance has since distanced himself from Project 2025 and says he will follow Trumps agenda.

    The Heritage Foundation, and maybe even Vance, may see Trump as a useful tool and thinks he will be a stepping stone to their dreams. Why? Because a lot of Trumps agenda does hold some commonality with their brand of Conservativism. Such as Parents Rights when it comes to schools and their children for one small example. However there are markedly different ideas between Trump and Project 2025. For example Trump is not going to push for a federal ban on abortion...despite the left claiming otherwise of course.

    And lets face it, both sides like to practice incrementalism in their push for their individual agendas.
     
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    I'll give you two. The rest is up to you to research.

    Trump is not calling for a federal ban on abortion.
    Trump is not calling for the department of education to be dissolved.
     
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    Now that is not actually what they said is it? Give us their EXACT words. Not your interpretation of what they said. Their EXACT words.
     
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    did any of them when asked say they would overturn roe vs wade?

    they played games, like Trump saying he did not agree with some of project 2025

    which parts, which parts does he agree and which does he disagree?
     
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    So, not going to give their exact words? Why's that? Is it maybe because they didn't actually say that they would not overturn precedence?
     
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    Democrat propaganda knows no bounds as the election nears.
     
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    He will follow anyones playbook as long as it hands him power.
     
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    cause I am not gonna go look it up, why don't you do that and let us know
     
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    Roe v Wade was not constitutional. You are being woefully ignorant in not understanding that.

    Trying to suggest abolishing something that was never constitutional is the same as abolishing the constitution is...well...asinine.

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/st...o-abortion-rested-on-a-shaky-legal-foundation
    Where Roe went wrong: A sweeping new abortion right built on a shaky legal foundation
     
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    Dems out gerrymandered the GOP in the last 3 House elections and you never said squat.

    Kamala lies about everything.

    Those promoting her are now pretending that we are all breathless in anticipation to learn who her VP will be.

    In Theory, Someone Will Eventually Be Kamala Harris’s Running Mate.

    “Democrats are in what is no doubt a very weird place right now. On the surface, they’re at least pretending to be bubbly and enthusiastic about the OH SO AWESOME sudden anointing of Vice President Kamala Harris as their nominee. They’re selling it too. The Dems are quite adept at operating in a purely fictional environment, after all. These are the same people who just spent three-and-a-half years pretending that Joe Biden had a functioning brain. They’ve got mad acting skills.”

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    It's not about you. But see how your two weirdos go with the swinging voters.
     
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    I guess they saw the success of repeating something over and over again - apparently it sticks. So he continues to say he won 2020, and she is attributing Project 2025 to him. Afterall, she has more 'proof' than he does.
     
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    Sure, the folks telling us that this is normal, are also telling us that Trump/Vance are weird.

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    This is the nonsense that makes me want Russia and China to become the leadership of the world. Because neither put up with this bullshit.
     
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    They love to gaslight.

    This is "normal"

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    This is "weird"

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    She's not talking about that. You can pretend that she is.

    Trump and Vance talk weird stuff day and night.
     
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    Sure. Trump and Vance are "weird" but these guys are perfectly "normal".

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    The Left is so into segregation they even segregate their voters.
     
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