The Homophobic Double Standard

the very terminology makes the claim. There is no real "transition". Sorry, but my points are valid whether you agree or not

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As I stated, there should be no job discrimination. My objection is allowing trans-genders/homosexual into the bathrooms of the opposite sex in grade/high school.

 

Trans-genders, tran-sexuals, gays and lesbians ARE NOT A RACE OF PEOPLE. There was NEVER a slave trade or Jim Crow laws for LGBT folks. So let's just cut that stuff out right now, shall we?

 

dixon....tell us the importance of "procreation" to the institution of marriage.

Then when challenged ...switch to "potential for procreation".

Then when challenged again about infertile heterosexual couples....proceed to "Constitutional law"

Then when challenged again, swtich back to your first argument.


See? I'm clairvoyent.

 

You're still mistaken. 'Gay' is not the same thing as 'transgender'. I'm a gay man, born male. I am not a man who identifies as a woman. I don't wear women's clothing. I have no intention of doing the things that some transgender people do (surgery, hormone treatments) so that their physical appearance better comports with their gender identity.

That you can't tell the difference between 'gay' and 'transgender' is you're own failing, not that of those who can.

It doesn't. You're reading into it a claim that isn't being made.

There is; just not as you chose to define it. Thing is, you don't get to define for other people what their identity is. "Transitioning" is about a change in the way a person presents themselves and their identity. No one who undergoes these changes is pretending or deluding themselves that it makes them 100% identical to a person born of that sex.

To put it bluntly: Another person's transition isn't about you.

Your points aren't valid merely because you proclaim it to be so. No one is fooled by that sort of noise.

As a gay man, I've never had any desire to use the bathroom of the opposite-sex. Moreover, transgender people using bathrooms is about using a bathroom for its intended function. This ignorant fantasy that some people have that transgender people are doing this so that they can molest people is utter twaddle. If someone is obsessed with the biological components of who uses which bathrooms, I'd say they have bigger problems than a transgender person does.

One last time: Gay and transgender aren't the same thing. If you still believe they are, then it's clear to me you don't wish to become better informed as to the facts. Nothing very nice I can say about that, so I'll end here.

 

Silly, what flies about 10,000 ft over your head is that both the procreation argument and the constitutional argument are one in the same.

 

That would be these transgenders who insist hey be able to use whichever bathroom they choose, unlike the rest of us who are restricted to just one of the two possibilities.

 

Again, it is, because in both cases the victims are mired in self-deception.

 

Heterosexual couples do that, too. Some estimates are as many as 15% of heterosexuals have enjoyed swinging as part of their marriage. Your concern about monogamy would be better suited trying to do something about that, not that there's any Constitutional way to do so.

 

I think that is great....also do not whine and call me a bigot when I question homosexuality. Remember you are the ones who brought it up.

 

The above is irrational, nonsense.

(Back to 'ignore' with you. Goodbye.)

 

One of my all time favorite bathroom signs.

It said women's bathroom only.

No dogs.

 

There's nothing to question. It's not a physics lecture. By "question", I assume you mean "Express negativity about queer people".

 

Exactly. All transgenders will be using the stall. The stalls are identical in both rooms. How can one stall make them feel more comfortable than the other? It's not about which stall they'll be using, it's about imposing their will on the vast majority.

 

So what if it is not normal. What on earth is your point ? Should we ban all things that are "not normal" ?

The whole point of "freedom" is so that one can do things that others might not think is "normal".

You are against freedom - end of story.

 

Sure you have the freedom to have sex with anyone that is old enough to consent.......and people have the same freedom not wanted them around their families poisoning their minds.

Double edge sword......embrace it.

 

So what is your definition of "around their families ..." Being seen? Within a mile? Not teaching in their schools?
Do your rights end where their nose begins?

 

This sentence is really incoherent. What you are trying to say here is that people should have the freedom to control the actions of others, actions that do not threaten bodily harm.

This is completely whacked. This is not freedom at all. You are arguing against freedom. You want to control the actions of others on the basis of what you consider "not normal".

 

People have the right to protect their family/kids etc from homosexual peddlers.

They are no different then drug peddlers IMO. Both are pushing their agendas.

 

Sure ... they can turn off the TV and teach their kids that this is right and that is wrong. What they do not have the right to do is make that decision for others.

You are welcome to your opinion but, does it make any sense ? Personal preference in relation to ones private sex life is related to drugs only in so far as both are personal preference.

You have the right to your opinion that was should control "personal preference" . There are many totalitarian regimes that have had the same desire.

You are against the freedom, the constitution, individual rights and freedoms. I just do not share this opinion.

 

Why do ya gotta be so heterophobic?

Theres no need to hate.

 

See my above responses. 'Nuff said.

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Not self-deception, but just dealing with how they were born. My objections to certain actions are noted.

 

You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

 

This nation stands for equality, and what's happening to same sex oriented people today is a long way from equal treatment - even by state and federal governments!

So, maybe you should state here on this board what there IS a need for.

If you know what is needed, maybe that would help.

 

:sigh: I would respond, but I'm just not going to take the time to copy and paste your responses to compensate for your inability to properly quote.

 

Here maybe this will help you understand what I was trying to say.