The Left's Double Standard: Gas Prices

I'm not a liberal, genius.. and I am very much pro-oil.

I just think TransCanada's pipeline may be a boondoggle. Why move sludge 1700 miles to refine it?

 

Good for you...

This is because it's impossible to build a refinerory. We haven't built one in America in 30 years. Why stand in the way of a pipeline that doesn't cost the government/people anything and will only serve to increase to over all supply of oil. If it is a "boondoggle", then TransCanada is stupid for waisting billions on it.

 

The post shows s a distinct lack of understanding of the oil industry and oil pricing. Since OPEC and the early 70's, all oil prices are based on the so called "world price". ANY disruption or THREAT of disruption or any kind of uncertainty affects upward the world price of oil.

When the "Arab Spring" began, the world price of oil went up. When revolution broke out in Libya the world price of oil went up and the price at the US pump skyrocketed even though not one drop of Libyan oil goes to the United States. It also affected gas prices in Western Canada and that is a region of the world that is a net exporter of oil, supplying 90% of US needs.

When Owebama canceled the Keystone pipeline, the world price of oil went up 3%...mainly, said market analysts, because the US could no longer be relied on to do what it said it would do. And, that cancelation now means Canada will have a growing surplus of oil.

 

What?


The mind reels.

 

We are exporting gasoline NOW...

Motiva which is owned by the Saudis and Shell has been expanded in Port Authur... and yes you can build refineries which create LONG TERM jobs..

 

Which TransCanada pipeline? The scuttled Keystone which you said would only create 3,000 jobs or the Norrthlands pipeline now being proposed to Kitimat on the West coast to serve Chinese interests?

Or, do you mean the K3, the third proposed oil sands project to the east coast?

Please be more specific.

What "sludge" is referred to here? Synthetic crude from the oil sands is cleaner and more viscous than any that is pumped out of the ground.

 

This is because the price of energy is so high and demand for gas is down. If another country will pay top rate for it, they will sell it to them.

when was the last large scale refinery built? 1977 maybe? If the drones will do anything to block a pipleline, imagine what they will do to stop a refinery, or a nuclear power plant.

 

Please provide a link showing data. You are aware of course that over 40% of Canadian crude imported in the US is exported back into Canada after refinement? You are also aware that most jet fuel is the same, crude originating in Canada being refined in the US and exported back into Canada because of a lack of refinement.

Other than that, would you please list and source a link as to where said gasoline is going?

 

TransCanada is the company that wants to build Keystone XL..

By sludge I mean bitumen oil that its too thick and sour to flow thru a pipeline.

Synthetic crude doesn't come from tar sands.

 

As a matter of fact you are correct GreatSatan. Currently in Canada, hearings are underway for a pipeline from the Alberta Oil Sands to the West Coast to supply the growing abundance of crude to Asian markets.

At present, public opinion in the concerned provinces favor the project. As the hearings opened yesterday the federal government revealed that the seemingly well financed and well organized opponents are being financed by US interests. Although they were not named, it was implied they had political backing, which could only mean the democrats.

And here is the reason. When Owebama canceled Keystone, he signed an energy death warrant. It means the earliest that project can begin would be 2015, or later. The earliest it can be completed is late 2020. By then US oil needs will have driven prices at the pump to more than $8.

If this northern pipeline goes ahead, the earliest a Keystone route could be started would be 2018 or 19, with completion in 2025. Are you ready for $15 a gallon gas?

The US government wants the northern pipeline halted so they can fast track the Keystone approval process in 2012 and have it on line 2016 to keep gas prices below $8 a gallon or else the dems will never see the inside of the White House for another five decades.

Americans do not understand the politics of oil, never will and have no clue as to the ramifications of what Owebama caused for the sake of a hand full of votes from the idiot millionaire SUV driving environment lobby.

 

Yeah.. Isn't that a brilliant downstream logistic? Sheesh.

 

Huh?

So why then would TransCanada want to build a pipeline from the oil sands which produces bitumen to the south coats of the US if it will not flow?

How is it then that the existing pipeline is doing that?

The above could not be more incorrect

Bizarre

 

But Obama transported Reggie to Orgasmic De-lite

 

The bitumen has to be diluted with higher qality crude to flow.

Its just dumb and costly logistics all the way around.

 

The drones will stop at nothing to destroy American industry in the name of "mother earth". They are programmed to believe that oil is the devil and blocking its use is righteous. They are also programmed to believe that high gas prices are the fault of evil, greedy, capitalist who want to choke every dime outa the poor little guy and only clean and pure liberals can save us with solar/wind.

The American populas is brainwashed. They are total drones.

 

Are we blocking Canada from building their own refineries? If they have so much oil, why don't they refine their own oil?

 

read the post above. Canada meets the same resistance to building pipelines/refinerys that America does.

 

That wasn't to build a refinery? That was for a coast to coast pipe line, no?

 

The same people who block the pipeline will block the refinery.

 

Yep. Definately a racist.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/226307-keystone-xl-boondoggle.html

 

Why? The usual issue is an accident causing damage to environment or drinking water. If you don't have to pipe it thousand of miles to refine it then less chance for environmental damage.
Unless refineries do envrionmental damage.

 

My sense of it is that this will benefit Canada more than the US.

If its such a sweet deal, why doesn't Canada build a pipeline across Canada and build their own refinery.

There are many reasons to be cautious as opposed to desperate.

 

Let me say a little more... Why not put a refinery and downstream manufacturing NEAR the source of the Tar Sands.. That is what makes a successful intergrated system.

 

Refinerys are evil, just like pipelines in the mind of a drone because they make gas. Gas is then used to fuel evil, greedy, racist American's SUVs that wrecklessly kill mother earth with there greenhouse gasses. The last major refinery was built in 1977. The drones are programmed to believe that we need less gas, not more. Thats why they block every refinery, pipeline, drilling project, power plant, that comes down the pipe.