The more Godless America becomes, the more 'uncivil' it also becomes

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  1. elijah

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    For some reason past experience tells me a PM wont be successful either.
     
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    Now we have coming from you a suggestive possible admission.
    Of course it is relevant. The relevance is a showing that your comments on this forum can be no more trusted than the comments made on your website.

    Now that really says a lot about the traffic that you might have on your website. If no-one gives a "damn" about what your beliefs are, then the existence of your website is a waste of bandwidth on the internet. If no-one gives a damn about your beliefs, then do the internet world a favor and decommission your website.
     
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    A. the complete absence of any data, like with the buffalo herd
    B 100,000 plus years of ice
    C. the millions of species of plants and animals from all over the world, two by two on a boat. really?

    "Kinds"? go ahead and explain how that is going to work. Two "cat kind" that hyperevolve into the many species we have now? Two 'rodent kind" to make the hundres of species we now have?

    How much could you possibly need to see it just makes no sense?

    Something, but what? the stories are highly varied.

    Most every culture also has a bigfoot, little people, giants, dragons, miracle cures, a god taht favours them over all others, invincible warriors, etc.

    Do you take that as meaning something? if so, what? Get back to me with the 'what" and I think you will also see the significance of widespread flood stories. or do you choose "special pleading"? All them other stories are bunk but because this one you like, its different, its real?
     
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    1st problem with this link. It is using the bible for historical reference. Since you, yourself, won't use the bible as historical reference how can anyone else. Or if you do use the bible as historical reference, you should be able to give a general date for the flood based on the bible.
    Most bible scholars put it around 1500-2000 BC. Or 3500-4000yrs ago.
     
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    From your link.
    We still do not know exactly how they accomplished all their engineering feats in ancient Egypt, but we can be sure that a people who were less than 30 generations from Adam had incredible intellectual skills.

    While you may not adhere to the flood 3500 yrs ago. It was a mere 30 generations. from Adam.
    So, what time frame do you adhere to?
     
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    It is NOT a computer code. that is a semi applicable analogy only.

    And DNA does not respond to "inputs" for "change as applicable".

    Again you are making things up. It is another symptom of correlation sickness.
     
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    More of Christ's love and the civility that His followers are so known for and that will transform America.
     
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    I can use it as a historical reference. I have to. I'm trying to support its claims, however, I'm not committed to a timeline. I know where some bible scholars put it, but there are others that date creation as old, and both of those have data supporting their claim.

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    so why should I adhere to this time frame? What makes them positive it was 30 generations?

    These sites may or may not be right, on anything, but they provide a working answer for certain issues. To say they would be 100% accurate, is crazy, nobody is 100% accurate.
     
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    I put a link somewhere on here about there being fossils of marine life on top of mt Everest.

    What verse are you referring to when you say "kinds"?
     
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    Why yes, there are marine fossils there. i rather fancy that what happened was that there was about an extra 6 miles of water on earth, and that there wer storms of such incredible violence that, they stripped bare the sea bed, and carried it to the surface, in such quantity that as the water receded (where the wind took it is no mystery; it went to Neptune where it shines to this day as a warining beacon against incoming rogue angels)
    . anyway as the water receded,there was so much mud and lime and seashells in the water, that a layer many meters thick was laid atop Mt. Everest.

    Miraculously, the chruning briny foam was able to sort out the marine fossils so that no species living today was included, nothing in fact dated more recently than 200 million years!

    Another miracle then took place, that the wet sediment then turned into limestone! Elsewhere, this takes palce only under great pressure at depth, but not in this case,not on Everest.

    Everest got a cap of limestone, but other mounatins did not.


    Nor was this layer left all over the earth, nor draped down the sides of the mountain. No, it was left at a slant, and not just draped on top of the mountain, but all the way thru the top! Like if you put liquid chocolate on top of your ice cream cone, then sliced it to find there was chocolate all the way thru!

    Miracle upon miracle.

    The Mt Everest thing is the moldiest of the moldy pratts, Dont insult your own intelligence with such gibberish.

    You tell me where it says "kinds" in the bible, You used the word, but, you cannot say what it means. Do you know why? Its because it dont mean a thing in biology. Its impossible to define it.

    You tho need to say how it works that taking two of each "kind" on a boat could account for the millions of living species that could not possibly have been collected and put on a boat for a year.
     
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    So give us a range of dates.

    Like sometime between the birth of jesus and 100,000 years?

    dont be shy.


    People may not be 100% right, but you sure can be, and are, 100% wrong.
     
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    OK, I'm lost in lingo, so whats a "moldy pratt"?
    Inquiring about things that I know nothing of is not "insulting" my intelligence, its expanding my intelligence.
    So are you saying that Mt. Everest was once covered with water?
    You were kidding about the "neptune" bit right?
    Also, you keep mentioned miracles, do you believe in miracles?

    Scripture is not a biology book, so you'll probably find a lot of words that wouldn't be used in a science field.
    Kind was probably the best term that they had when writing Genesis.

    So your questioning how the species came about AFTER the flood, or how the process of collecting them before the deluge happened, which one?
     
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    I haven't given it enough thought lately to be able to establish even a remote time frame. But off the top of my head, before Christ, and after creation, whenever that was. Thats all I've got.
     
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    Good luck finding someone who thinks the flood is real, and who thinks
    it could have been over a hundred thousand years ago.

    But then, we have the "Neptune" guy.

    Oh, doyou know waht a "genetic bottleneck" is? All species should show one, from the same point in time (flood). But they dont.

    Does it seem at all odd that every single last relevant datum point on earth says there was no flood, if there really was one?

    i mean, wiht god, the bible, the angels, and all of reality on the side of that story, shouldnt something be there?
     
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    TY for proving my point(s) again. You don't know what is right or wrong. You can make assumptions and pick sites that conform to what you'd like to believe and that is about it. Or you pick them to reinforce what you already believe.
    So to claim things are correct/true/right/etc is nothing but a claim and opinion.
     
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    The same would be held true for all people writing on this forum/thread. Therefore the futility of such discussions is fully exposed. My opinion/your opinion.
     
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    Did the cambrian explosion give us a bottleneck?
     
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