The more the gun nuts fight the assualt weapons ban, the more attention it gets

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  1. monty1

    monty1 New Member

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    The discontented gungoons could never mount a force that would be more than a short day's work for their military but it sure would be good to see them try.

    Alas, it's all bluster and bluff. They're too busy fondling their guns and touching them in places that make the guns feel uncomfortable.
     
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    beenthere Well-Known Member

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    It would help if you on the left would start acknowledging that murder rates are DOWN from what they were over the past 4 decades. Define assault weapons in a reasonable way that make sence, so far all we have seen is the, "It looks SCARYYYYY", nonsence. Admit that the weapons you want to ban are used in only .4 of 1% of the murders done in this country. Then come up with a reasonable argument WHY they should be baned. So far you on the left have done none of this. All we hear for you is, "uns are bad, guns are bad", and you refuse to acknowledge the over 1 million crimes a year they stop in civilian hands.


    Now, while we are about it, please explain why the Federal Government is buying over 1 billion rounds of ammunition in hollow point and soft point. This type can NOT be used by the military and it adds up to over 100 years of ammo needed for training. So please explain WHY the Government is buying it.
     
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    beenthere Well-Known Member

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    Question, do you really believe the U.S. military would sire on their own relatives???

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    Could be, but they would steam roll you dirt huggers wouldn't they!!!
     
  4. monty1

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    The government is buying up all that ammunition to use on American disidents and **********s. When they shoot the baggers and disidents dead they are going to take away all their guns and give them to liberals.The ones the liberals don't want will be given to Russians and Chinese people. Along with the left over ammunition of course.
     
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    Red, another question. Since we have 36 million armed forces vets out here and most would take up arms if things get to that point and they know how to get what equipment they need, you really think it would be a walk in the park for any military group that would want to enslave them???

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    Oh, and under WHAT pretext do you think they will use to start the killing??
     
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    The force you are imagining that could be put up against the military would be more like 36 baggers wearing camo tea bags off their hats and carrying granpappy's flintlock. Nothing that couldn't be handled by one of the drones Obama has set aside for the job.
     
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    Now here we have a fool that never served and knows nothing about the military or the men in it. Unlike you, I served and also know the mind set of the people that served. We swore an oath to the Consitution of this nation and NOTHING has happened to release us from that oath. And just so fools such as yourself can't say they never heard nor saw anything about the Home Land Security buying over in billon rounds of Ammo;

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/homeland-security-bullets_n_2688402.html

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ent-homeland-security-buying-so-many-bullets/

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/feds-buying-100-years-worth-of-ammo/

    http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/16/l...apse-by-buying-up-billions-of-rounds-of-ammo/

    http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/dhs-ammo-buy-equipping-a-police-state/

    http://minutemennews.com/2013/03/1-...ecurity-its-time-for-a-national-conversation/
     
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    Participation in the military is often a family thing, I don't think there would be that many situations where soldiers would have to fire of their direct family. I think what you're trying to say is that American soldiers would never fire on American citizens. If so you have a very idealized view of the military and humanity.

    People will do terrible things at the orders of authority figures. The holocaust in Germany, when the PLA fired on protesters near Tianaman square. The USA is no different, remember that the Milgram expariment was done in America.
     
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    I know therer are some that will fire on U.S. citizens, but I don't thinik it would be the majority of them. As one apache pilot I was talking to said, "I'd turn my guns on the people that ordered me to do such a thing. I swore an oath to the Constitution, not to a man or political party".
     
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    Red our military is generally composed of a bunch good ole boy rednecks from down south. They'd be more inclined to shoot the genral that told them to launch an all out assault on Birmingham than than launch that attack.

    On the other hand given that Homeland security is the overiding control wor the Pentagon ordering a billion rounds of ammunitions is not something I'm terribly concerned about.
     
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    Why do you call me a fool? I know the government is buying up ammunition to kill **********s. So figure there are about 100,000 baggers, that works out to about 10,000 rounds into each bagger's useless carcass. Overkill you think?

    Why though, when Obama has a drone already loaded up with a couple of missiles to take out their small isolated infestations. They're smell seeking missiles that seek out the stink of racists.
     
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    I WILL disagree with you; at the polls, where it actually matters the most.

    It's as clear as that.
     
  13. Johnny-C

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    Our "rights" are defined by the laws of this land. And one right we BOTH have is to advocate for those laws to be changed.

    You may not wish for certain laws to be changed or enhanced... but I SURELY DO.

    So be it.
     
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    No, I did not imagine or claim any such thing; you are merely projecting your own perception of someone (me) who disagrees with you.

    And you are not the first, nor the last human being on this planet; neither am I. I know for a FACT that many of the changes I wish to see come to fruition, will not come in my lifetime. But that does not mean that I won't fight for change DURING my lifetime.

    Things WILL change with or without YOUR approval.

    But be certain, that 'I' will advocate for something different than you; that is rather obvious.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can't be fighting very hard if you refuse to even articulate the ideas and measures that you'd like to see implemented.
     
  16. Johnny-C

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    Yep. Indeed, that is so.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is why there should be stricter mental health evaluations as a requirement for enlistment.
     
  18. Johnny-C

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    They'd be given the option to GET OUT, most likely. And they won't be taking the really big guns with them.
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    Have you considered the actual shortsightedness of your arguments? It surely doesn't seem like it.

    Take some time and think about that, while I put you on 'ignore' for a time.
     
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    For certain, I'm not buying that mantra-like BS you are putting out here.

    Later.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A foreign national just expressed his view that it would be good to see the US military make a "short day's work" of certain American citizens and you, an American military member, replied, "Yep." You should be ashamed but I know that you aren't.
     
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    And you claim to have once been in he Military. How effective do you think they'd be with 80 to 90% of the officer corps gone and about half of the NCO and enlisted men as well? Not to mention which you lose most if not all the national guard units between the mountains as well. And that last account for most of your most experienced units. And lots of luck taking all their equipment away...
     
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    Because you are a fool, that's why
     
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    You will do that anyway, but if your going to try and debate an issue, bring up some facts. That's where your losing it, you have no facts. Now, considering my vote will cancel your vote and yours will cancel mine the only thing left is to trot out your facts and see if you can change some minds. As I already said, your long on wind but short on facts. It has been pointed out to you that the majority of murders are done with a 9MM pistol but you still want to ban some long guns. That's like saying a Ford Pinto's gas tank will explode when hit in the rear so we need to ban diesel trucks to solve the problem. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.
     
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    Good job johnny you've just convince a whole lot more people that facts are utterly irrelevant to leftist when those facts contradict their beliefs.
     
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