The Muslim Claim to Jerusalem

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jew connotes Judea, and most of Israel is not Judea.

    so they should go home, following YOUR logic
     
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    Not really... this is a false impression that you might have picked...
    Israel is made out of names of adjoining 12 tribes and this is long before Islam was even on the drawing board.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ancient history, bro.

    Jews means Judea, and the borders of Judea are very small.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You mean just like the Jewish 'settlers'? Nice to see you admit to the fact that the 'settlers' are committing illegal acts.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yes, you should be familiar with all the above considering they are all a constituent component of your rhetoric.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Really? Then you'll be pleased to know that international law considers moving a part or whole of the civilian population of an occupying power onto occupied territory as illegal. In this case I'm referring to your 'settlers'.

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    Well then seeing as the USA is signatory to the UN Charter and is thus bound to obey and uphold the rules, laws and conventions contained within, you really should care.
     
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    And Jews are leaving Israel in droves.

    http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.622367
    http://americanfreepress.net/tens-of-thousands-of-jews-leaving-israel-for-germany/
    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/a...israelis-rushing-to-leave-the-qpromised-landq
     
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    Not quite!
    If we will look what Levy report wrote about Article 49 we will see that Article 49 from the 4th GC has been created because of the reality of the WWII and the moving of some countries population to another country's territories, so Article 49 was created to stop it, and the reality in the WB isnot the reality that was in WWII. Moreover, that the population in the WB is living there because of their own will to live there, and not because they were forced to move there.
    They also qoute the authoritative interpretation of the IRCC:
    The report continued and borught qoutes from Prof. Rostow:
    Also Prof. Stone regarded it in the book of reply to the advisory opinion of the ICJ from 2004, and he said:
    And of course once again Prof. Rostow when he regarded Article 49 in the reply:
    Source'1: http://israelipalestinian.procon.or...l-Status-of-Building-in-Judea-and-Samaria.pdf
    Source'2: http://www.mythsandfacts.org/media/user/documents/Eli Hertz Reply 4-21-05D.pdf
     
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    The Romans were right but they didn't do a good enough job of destroying that city. Once they leveled it, they should have salted it.
     
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    Could of should of would of...but didn't...Because the Yahweh always protects his chosen people
     
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    unless they disobey him.

    when that happens, Yahweh inflicts great and terrible punishment upon his chosen people
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Prof. Rostow is wrong about Article 80 of the UN Charter, Article 49 of the Geneva Conventions, and the Mandate for Palestine.

    he is wrong....and he was a liar.
     
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    So the UN picked a liar to be one of the drafters of Resolution 242?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he didn't start lying until his lies about the Israeli Occupation.
     
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    Do you know what is the problem in what you are saying here? The problem is that you arleady agreed with me in our last convertation, that the rights of he Mandate that were granted to the Jews are still valid in the WB, and thus agreed with Article 80 that protects the rights of the Mandate, and by that you simply not just greed with my in this subject, you also agreed with all the rest of the experts that say that as well. One of them is Prof. Rostow.

    So at the end of the day, you cant regard him as a liar about the "Israeli occupation" becuase you agreed with his statements that the rights of the Mandate are still valid thanks to Article 80.
     
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    all lies. I never said these things.
     
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    And yet Jews persevere while great empires fold like deck of cards.
     
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    Where's the Jewish empire?
     
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    Israel does not consider any part of its territory as occupied...
    Ronstar for one who embraces Judaism you really steam my clams.

    Judea and Shomron/Samaria have been liberated from 19 years of Jordanian occupation without the help of any so called Palestinian. Judea and Samaria are thus 'Israel'...

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    There was never a Jewish Empire, there is only the 'Land of Israel' that will live forever!
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the West Bank has not been annexed by Israel, therefore it is not Israeli territory.

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    persevere with a legacy of horrible suffering.

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    hahaha!!!

    you dishonestly take my words out of context.

    classic Hasbara
     
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    I didnt take words out of context, only posted what you wrote. Or maybe it wasnt you, Ronstar, that wrote comment #79?
     
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    Even you should understand that a State cannot and would not annex what is legally, historically the case of Mandatory Palestine that was assigned legally for the reconstitution of Israel!
     

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