The New Texas Abortion Ban

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  1. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Come on now; you and I both know that Trump was his own worst enemy. He wouldn't recognize the truth if he tripped over it and was a moral blank; covid was a perfect example. Biden may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but he's a lot more honest then Trump could ever hope to be and as far as I know, hasn't led any insurrections against the country.
     
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    Don't assume this is a conservative thing. While there is some relevance there, there's feelings on both side both ways. I'm clearly conservative, but I certainly oppose the Texas law. I believe things have an order of importance or magnitude, meaning different factors about them are not all equally important. In most every conflict, I tend to say that those who must deal with the consequences and carry the burdens have the first voice; nobody who has no skin in the game should be dictating the decisions of others. Until such time as a fetus is viable, it belongs to the mother in my opinion. I would have no problem with a reasonable time issue, but the Texas law pretty much bypasses that choice altogether. Kind of makes something legal illegal by technical manipulation. The concept of allowing others not involved to interfere is utterly ludicrous as well. However Biden blasting it as a violation of a constitutional right comes from an administration eager to violate constitutional rights, thus is a political ploy, not an expression of values.

    If we had a simple rule that stated you leave others the hell alone so long as the decisions they make primarily effect only themselves, the world would be a lot better off.

    Abortions are going to happen, regardless of law- they always have, always will. The reason for laws legalizing abortion were developed in part to prevent the many deaths that came about as a result of back-room and DIY abortions. Thus- this law is only perpetuating an old problem and making it far more complex. Bad policy.
     
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    Biden's not honest at all. The pandemic is surging under Biden and he promised he would follow the science and yet, instead, he is telling the scientists what they should do.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False. Obviously your hatred of Biden is overpowering your sense of reasoning.
     
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    LOL. Obviously your hatred of Trump is overpowering your sense of reasoning.
     
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    Not false. He lied about the vaccines, and his CDC and FDA are trying to dictate what medicines doctors treat their patients with.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What was the alleged falsehood; be specific.
     
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    He specifically stated "If you get vaccinated, you WILL NOT get COVID."

    That's false.
     
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    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you don't get vaccinated can you guarantee you won't get covid?
     
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    How is that even close to a response to what I posted?
     
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    This meme appeared on my FB page and it is probably the best analogy of the vaccines that I've seen yet.

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    Nope, people have a measure of personal responsibility if they recklessly have sex and become pregnant. The majority of women never have to worry about an abortion, let alone one which isn't a medical emergency but purely elective.

    People don't have an "entitlement" to be as irresponsible as they want to and have all consequences removed at the expense of others.

    Particularily sexually and romantically inexperienced people who are naive enough to think that there is any way to avoid any potential consequences with mathematical certainty - I've met a few of these ugly idiots, and they tend to be nerds, geeks, and freaks who couldn't get laid in Nevada brothel with $1 billon dollars of cash in their pockets, and think citing some nerdy, isolated statistic about birth control or something means they don't have to factor any calculated risk assessment into the issue.

    Trying to remove any notion of personal responsibility is reducing people to chattel, not the other way around.

    At this rate, it's only a matter of time before Roe vs Wade is rendered irrelevant (and then possibly other fronts, such as SSM will be moved onto as well) - so people had bloodly-well get used to it.
     
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    That is the core of all progressive-liberal philosophy - excuse the conduct of the reckless and irresponsible, and make the careful and responsible pay for it.
     
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