The solution to men's incursions into women's sports

I've long thought that the solution to this problem is for women to simply not cooperate. See here for a good example.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Megyn-Kelly-slams-her.html#comments-12101639

There are more women than there are men pretending to be women. So women have leverage.

If the NCAA and other organizations sponsoring competition want to continue pretending that trans women are women, the women athletes should form private clubs who can run things sanely and compete there. Makes it hard to get a scholarship, but universities are loony bins anyway.

 

At the NCAA Level, I fully support the right of biologically-born female athletes boycotting en masse any athletic competitions in which biologically-born males are allowed to participate.

 

The very purpose of separating men and women athletes is to compensate for the physiological advantage that men have over women in sports, in order to allow them to compete fairly. The solution is to either: (a) separate biological males from biological females in sports, and make no exceptions, or (b) do away with the separation completely and just have men and women compete against each other.

 

How come we don’t see women pretending to be men in the NFL, NBA, or NHL?

 

This, like many issues of the past, will generate loads of palaver in the media and on line for a while yet. Then it will slowly be settled one way or another and a new issue will take its place in the chatter arena.

And so it goes. [A tip o' the Torus hat to the late Mr. Kurt Vonnegut.]

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Yes. I'd give anything for LeBron to transition and join the WNBA. He could keep his muscles and beard and say, "this is just how I LOOK. Doesn't change the FACT that I'm woman, hear me roar!"

 

It's not just chatter. It's a real phenomenon affecting real women and girls in dressing rooms, on the track, and in wrestling and MMA matches.

 

Since option (b) is a Complete NON-Starter...
Obviously, (a) is the ONLY True Option. Period!

 

Hi, Le Chef.

Of course it is. The use of performance-enhancing drugs in sports was also a very real issue, affecting many. It's rarely mentioned these days.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Just give transpeople their own competitions.

 

You don't understand that this is about them changing normal society into a circus where they and only they make the rules.

 

Let’s start with - this affects only a handful of people in the nation. But why not deal with it the same way the para Olympic deals with differently enabled people?

 

So much of this takes me back to the sixties and seventies when the freak out was about hippies

 

Is it? I think most women are far more concerned about men who think they are entitled to grab women whenever they like and inflict abuse on them because of “insert excuse here”. A transgendered male is not interested in accosting women - why would they?

 

Athletes are tested for Performance enhancing drugs and when caught are kicked out of competition and lose their awards and medals...

What does that have to do with women athletes being forced to compete against men ?

 

Hi, CKW.

See Post #5, above, for the answer to your question.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

This is post five " This, like many issues of the past, will generate loads of palaver in the media and on line for a while yet. Then it will slowly be settled one way or another and a new issue will take its place in the chatter arena.

And so it goes. [A tip o' the Torus hat to the late Mr. Kurt Vonnegut.]

Regards, stay safe 'n well"

And it doesn't answer my question pertaining to your specific example below:

" Hi, Le Chef.

Of course it is. The use of performance-enhancing drugs in sports was also a very real issue, affecting many. It's rarely mentioned these days.

Regards, stay safe 'n well."

So instead of making me go thru all this work for nothing...can you simply answer the question?

Athletes are tested for Performance enhancing drugs and when caught are kicked out of competition and lose their awards and medals...

What does that have to do with women athletes being forced to compete against men ?

If you think women athletes are making a big deal out of nothing and should accept competing for scholarships and awards against men....just be honest and say so.

 

Hi again, CKW.

OK. Let's take it step by step.

My post had, as its point, that there's a lot of palaver about current issues but that, with time, those issues are resolved, one way or another, and the palaver drops off.

I used the current issue of trans people competing in sports as a current example.

I used the use of performance-enhancing drugs, [also in sports, by the way,] as an example of an issue which generated lots of palaver in the past but has been resolved to the point that it's hardly mentioned today.

And that is what tied the two issues together -- the point of my post -- that issues are resolved with time and rarely discussed subsequently.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

 

Your example would make more sense if they related. Performance enhancing drugs were in the news and being talked about because athletes were being caught. And are still being caught.

There wasn't a group of athletes demanding to have the right to take Performance enhancing drugs and competing against those who don't.

Do you think we should blow off as insignificant chatter ---conversations about fairness in sports and how to resolve issues? Do you have no opinion and really don't care either way?

 

Hi again, CKW.

I 'blow off' lots of chatter on any number of issues. A goodly amount of it is driven by emotion as opposed to logic and facts. "How would you like it if . . . "

I have opinions on many issues. They stem, ultimately, from my underlying ideology -- secular humanism.

I would like to see the issue of trans people competing in sports resolved. How it will be resolved is not known to this poor old country mouse at this time.

Regards, and thanks for the chat on this thread. I believe we've concluded it.

 

Ok. Well you felt motivated to post your casual disregard of the subject as a worthy conversation. Which leads to passive acceptance of the status quo....which is women competing against men. So passive acceptance does in fact lead to an opinion. I just think someone should be more straightforward when posting an opinion.......

 

What? I don't support that, either.

 

Preachy hippies did annoy me in the 60's, but I don't recall any of them demanding that I support their doctrine in the way that "trans women," aka confused men, do now.

Trans activists today remind me faintly of the Yippies of yore.

 

Well, none of us "know." We would like to hear your opinion, nevertheless.

 

What “demands” and what “doctrine”? All I see is a marginalised group seeking acceptance and some hysterical reactions from so called “Christian right” who are conflating what grooming really is and how it occurs thereby obscuring very real dangers to kids from real predators all while attacking a group of people who very well may be victims of increased levels of EDCs from plastics