The Stanford Guide to Acceptable Words

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    Why do you keep projecting this onto me? I really have no interest in knowing your feelings.
     
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    I didn’t. Odd you think I did.
     
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    I think Crank was inferring that unless we call them out, and do not tolerate their shame-lists, and most don't enough to make a difference, the insanity keeps breeding. Crank will correct me if I read the post wrong.
     
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    You're telling me how you feel and implying that I am worrying about this too much because you don't.
     
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    I’m sure those who put the silly guide together read this forum…:roll:
     
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    Not in the post you replied to. When I’ve said you worry to much I’ve done it with direct words.
     
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    PC culture has been cultivated to divide us and the danger is that it's working.
     
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    It only works if you allow it to work.
     
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    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/consider
    All words and definitions being used in this post are from the link provided above.
    And anyone interested can type in all the other words to read the definitions for themselves. To keep this post short.

    That particular twitterer@Stanford should consider studying a dictionary for definitions of English words.

    American~ adjective 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people or language or culture
    “American citizens” “American English” “the American Dream”
    Immigrant~ noun 1. A person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there.
    Note the twitterers mistake to avoid particular pronouns he/she via instructions for how to know an individual’s pronouns. Followed by a warning not to use the words “preferred pronouns” because “that suggests that non-binary gender identity is a choice.” Note: The twitterers mistake was using the words “Preferred Pronouns” in the instructions to know an individual’s pronouns.
    Preferred~ 1. adjective More desirable than another. “Danny’s preferred name is Dan.”

    The word immigrant perfectly describes any person who comes to a country where they were not born in order to settle there?
    Why the need to say “a person who immigrated”? Could it be the difference that exists between documented and undocumented immigrants?
    Undocumented~ adjective 1. Lacking necessary documents (as for e.g. permission to live or work in a country) “undocumented aliens”
    Alien~ noun 2. Person who comes from a foreign country; someone who does not owe allegiance to your country
    My :twocents: Considerations~ noun 1. The process of giving careful thought to something.
     
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    I think there is an old soon to be a big “no no” slang >>> “La La Land”! https://funkyenglish.com/slang-la-la-land/
    • Meaning – La-la land is an imaginary place where people are out of touch with reality. It is a hypothetical place that you visit when you are not paying attention or you are daydreaming. If you are in la-la land you are zoned out (lacking concentration) or in a state of semi-consciousness. You are disconnected from reality.
     
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    I enjoy reading the dictionary. I enjoyed playing scrabble with my Hubby. He quit playing when he won his first game which took a very long time to accomplish. :)
     
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    My interest was in the field of Etymology.
     
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    How so? Most of these words are already in use for professional settings. We recently mandated the use of primary to describe the main bedroom instead of master due to the historical connotations of the word — master bedroom was what slaves called the owners bedroom. Our IT department moved away from “slave” long ago — that on should be apparent

    If you have two words that describe the same thing but one of them has a ton of “baggage” why not try to use the one without it?

    For example how Christians get upset when people don’t say Merry Christmas — isn’t it just easier to say Merry Christmas?

    I remember when my grandparents used words like colored or negro, they were perfectly fine during their time
     
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    Very interesting field. I also have an interest in Etymology. I have an online Etymology link saved on my IPad. I also enjoy using that link.:D
     
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    The term could have that meaning, but it's not exclusively used in that sense.

    https://homeeon.com/origin-of-the-term-master-bedroom/
    Changing it generally is a movement not to hurt the feelings of snowflakes.
     
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    I'm not actually for being PC, but I'm kind of glad this exists. Now if you want to know if something you say could possibly offend anybody, you look to the resource. And if somebody gets offended anyway, you say you consulted the expert's list and therefore thought it was fine. Definitely lots of stuff in there I thought was totally innocent. But apparently jokes from 100 years ago affect the words we can say today, lol.
     
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    How about Stanford add two words to their list? Common Sense.
    It's great to see that not all the staff at Stanford is anal.
    Stanford professor hammers school's 'ham-handed' ban on harmful words like 'American' | Fox News
    Stanford releases list of words to be removed from school websites and computer code

    Stanford Professor Dr. Jay Bhattacharya warned against the "dangerous" potential consequences of the university’s recent move to remove "harmful language" from its websites and computer codes.
    Stanford University explained the goal of its new "Elimination of Harmful Language Initiative" is to remove racist, violent or biased language. The banned words were put into different categories like ableist, gender-based, and culturally appropriative.

    Bhattacharya, a naturalized U.S. citizen, acknowledged that Stanford had good intentions with the initiative, but he said it was disappointing to see a list of "banned words," especially the term "American."
    "I can understand where they're coming from. What they're trying to do is create an atmosphere of respect for other people," Bhattacharya said on "The Ingraham Angle" Wednesday. "But this is such a ham-handed way to try to go about it."


    Bhattacharya referred to himself as an "immigrant" and explained to host Sean Duffy that the title of "American" is part of his identity. One of the happiest moments of his life, he said, was becoming a naturalized citizen at 20 years old.

    "I am proud to be an American. That word means a lot to me," he said, explaining that he's been at Stanford for 36 years as a student and then a professor.

    "I like this word, it’s part of my identity, it’s part of who I am – [for it to be] forbidden, is crazy. It is not actually going to foster respect
     
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    You didn’t answer the question though — if you can see why a word would be offensive why is using more inclusive language.

    Removing gendered pronouns from professions for example. The term fireman / congressman/ police man doesn’t necessarily mean male unless directed at an individual — why do neutral terms mean someone is a snowflake?
     
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    Question for you-- Do you object to American/US citizens calling themselves Americans?
    If so, why? And if not, why would some elites at Stanford be for removing the word, Americans, from school websites and computer code do you think?
     
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    I don’t personally have an issue with it but I understand why some would see the need for a change. American could — linguistically speaking — be any resident of North or South America.
     
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    Nobody insists that they don't call themselves Americans though (those from North or South America), so the point IME, is controlling what the elities consider the unwashed masses by insisting that immigrants who become naturalized citizens and take pride in becoming Americans, and those born here don't call themselves Americans. That's fascist.
     
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    https://gradadmissions.stanford.edu/explore-programs

    I agree, the term could have that meaning, but it’s not exclusively used in that sense.
    I agree.

    I wonder, If there will be a consideration happening at Stanford to change the word “Master” on all of their academic “ masters ” degrees?
    I think, There should also be a recall for all of those multiple past master degrees framed & hanging on walls…
    In exchange for the better considered word change “?” degree with no capital letters. (ma) (mfa) (mla) (mpp) & (ms) ;)

    https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/master

    Master~ noun 1. A person who has general authority over others.

    Comment: Master actors are brilliant actors: they've mastered the skill of acting: maybe they have a Master of Fine Arts degree (mfa)

    Master~ adjective 5. Most important element “ the master bedroom” “a master switch”

    Master~ noun 13. Someone who holds a master's degree from academic institution.

    Elitist~ noun 1. One who is biased in favor of those with high status. 2. noun Someone who believes in rule by an elite group.

    My :twocents: I think, the capitalized word “Master” on all of those degrees combined with just attending or being a professor in college may have promoted an elitist attitude. ;)
     
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    Again, linguistically and geographically speaking — these immigrants take pride in becoming US citizens. Most of them are already ‘Americans’.

    I think this is exactly what the “elites” are saying is the issue with people not using precise terminology. If I have learned anything from my time at university it is that very educated people love to use exact wording especially in the field they are specialized in.

    I think that is one of the reasons the split between gender and sex has arisen because they need different terminology to describe specific elements.

    I am in the middle on the word changes, I can understand both sides perspectives. One side feels like their language is being taken from them and the other side feels either said language is offensive / outdated or isn’t an accurate descriptor.

    I don’t see how any of this is fascist however
     
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    https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=man

    Man noun A featherless plantigrade biped mammal of the genus Homo" [Century Dictionary], Old English man, mann "human being, person (male or female).
     

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