The Stanford Guide to Acceptable Words

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    https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=mankind
    early 13c., man-kende, "the human race, humans collectively," from man (n.) + kind (n.). Also used occasionally in Middle English for "male persons" (late 14c.), but otherwise preserving the original gender neutrality of man (n.). For "menfolk, the masculine division of humanity, the male sex," menkind (late 14c.) and menskind (1590s) have been used. Mankind as "the human race" displaced earlier mankin (from Old English mancynn) which survived into 14c.
     
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    These seem to be old English terms and not really in use today

    If you call an individual a man they take that as an indication of their sex or gender.
     
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    I did answer the question. I'm not really interested in sparing the feelings of snowflakes. My opinion is -- grow a pair and quit complaining. I know of no one that thinks about slavery when you speak of a Master bedroom. I asked several people just today what came to their minds when they hear the phrase and not a one of them thought of slavery.
     
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    I got interested in it when I was about 15. I stopped studying it in my late thirties. Now I'm just working off memories.
     
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    No Americans should ever even expect any immigrant who is a naturalized citizen to even consider not calling themselves Americans, U.S. Citizen or whatever they have chosen for themselves.
    No Americans should ever even expect any of the descendants of slavery to even consider not calling themselves Americans, U.S. Citizens or whatever they have chosen for themselves.

    They are all not doubt about Americans and U.S. Citizens of America. And have the right to choose for themselves.

    Americans will not expect Americans who have chosen not to call themselves Americans to reconsider their choice. It’s their choice.

    Those Americans can request consideration from other Americans but should never expect those Americans to not call themselves Americans.

    I think the idea is a desire to divide The United States of America. Divide & Conquer.
     
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    Will we have to rename MAGAs now to MUSCGAs? :)
     
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    I think of the hotel California....

    And in the Master's Chambers they gather for a feast, they stab it with their stealy knives but, they still can't kill the beast!!!

    You know how a good percentage of progressives are.... They can wake up in the morning and spot racism in their Cheerios and go outside to scream and rage and see racism in the clouds and the trees and in the air
     
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    Usually if a leftist wants to find a racist all they have to do is look in the mirror.

    The Eagles are my all-time favorite group.
     
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    Thats great, we have a fairly extensive agent network that deals with a few thousand renters across the South East not to mention the professional organizations that we belong — it might not be an issue for you or for people you know but it is to some.

    You say you are not interested in the feelings of snowflakes yet you are wanting your feelings to be heard. There seems to be a larger movement to correct terminology that might be deemed insensitive than there is of individuals upset that a word is no longer being used.

    Personally I think both sides are ridiculous — one side is too sensitive and the other side is also too sensitive— but if I can slightly edit my language to make those around me (typically my customers and clients) more comfortable I am going to do so happily.

    You are free to not do so however and only the “snowflakes” will be offended, and since you are “not interested” in their feelings anyway then it is largely irrelevant.

    I do find it odd that the right seems upset out the pronoun thing and those being used correctly but moving the general name of a firefighter / police officer from fireman / police man to be more inclusive of women is where the line is drawn.
     
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    Whenever I see a person rescue someone in a house fire or car crash their gender does not enter my mind. The term fireman or policeman is what I consider an all inclusive noun, meaning it applies to both genders risking their lives for others. Only those of the PC crowd sees gender. I see heroes.

    When I say I don't care about the feelings of snowflakes I'm referring to those who go out of their way to make it an issue. If my referring to a Master bedroom in the sense I use it offends you I say tough ****. Perhaps they should ask me how I'm using the words before they go off on me. Among themselves they can use whatever descriptive words floats their boats, but they have no right to make me change my vocabulary just to appease their hurt feelings.
     
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    Yes, in the past both words man and mankind held the status of being primary definitions. Currently the word man has lost it’s #1. definition position.

    Mankind has not lost it’s position of being 1. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/mankind

    Comments ~ The entire human species can be referred to in one simple word with mankind. In its Old English origin, man is gender-neutral, meaning simply "person."

    Mankind~ noun 1. All of the living human inhabitants of the earth.
    synonyms: human beings, human race, humanity, humankind, humans, man, world

    Man~ noun 7. Any living or extinct member of the family Hominidae characterized by superior intelligence, articulate speech, and erect carriage.
    noun 8. The generic use of the word to refer to any human being.
    noun 9. All of the living human inhabitants of the earth.
     
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    So in this instance a pronoun isn’t really that important to you. Ok

    Inclusive language really isn’t about you (notice how many times you used “I” above) — it is about the other person.

    I think that is the dividing line between most conservatives and liberals.

    It would take a very odd person to “go off on you” — most people internalize things that make them uncomfortable. My position requires me to be aware of those potential issues in attempts to close a lead. I also see no reason to be hung up on a word and if it is an issue to someone then so be it.

    I am just not hung up on words when a comparable one is available. It just seems almost spiteful some of the reasons being listed in this thread as to why this is such an issue.

    It’s not a mandate and I don’t believe either side being willing to even attempt to see the other’s prospective so… as usual, an impasse.
     
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    I was interested in reading when I was young. Loved going to the Library. Asked for the book Black Beauty for Christmas. I eventually started reading the dictionary. My daughter started browsing the dictionary. She found a picture of sign language and taught herself how to sign. Bought her books to learn to sign sentences. She was good enough to be able to minimal could communicate with a person who needed sign language to communicate. As long as they signed slowly.
     
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    It’s almost like men coined these terms when women were not allowed to voice their opinions.
    Not allowed to work.
    Not allowed to vote.
     
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    What, in your opinion, is the issue? It seems to me that the ones making it an issue are those trying to change word usages to avoid hurting someone's feelings. You admitted that your company is mandating rethinking what words you use in reference to sensitive people. You don't see a problem with that. Good for you, but don't you draw the line anywhere or will you simply go along to get along?
     
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    As far as I've known, Women have always worked their ass off.. The only thing that's changed, is now they get paid ;)
     
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    So in OTHER WORD, conformist ;) That seems to be the Democrat way these day :(
     
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    My love of reading was inspired by my Aunt (who was a college professor) when she placed into my hands (at around 10) a book of Marcus Aurelius and would patiently walk me through it for understanding. I was hooked ever since.
     
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    They are for our employees.

    I will draw a line when it is something that cannot be explained to me rationally. I have no issues with police officer, fire fighter, congresscritter, primary bedroom… If you cannot rationalize why those words have meaning then don’t use them.
     
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    Of course that's (rationally) a solely subjective evaluation. I'm not obligated to find anything rational that you call rational (and of course that's a two way street). So how do we resolve the issue?
     
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    We don’t — I am mostly in the middle with this issue — but I am sure you can see what is happening around the nation due to the left and the right not even taking a few moments to even attempt to see the others perspective. “F*** your feelings” seems to have moved from something embraced by the right to being embraced by everyone.
     
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    Just like the solution for high prices is high prices, the solution for all of this woke stuff is all of this woke stuff. Exposing themselves for what and who they are will reveal to all just how moronic they are.

    This is how absurd institutions [such as Stanford] begin to destroy themselves.
     
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    Yes, thus the real agenda with the PC police is to divide us.

    I guess the words of MLK were nothing more than a pipe dream.
    https://kr.usembassy.gov/martin-luther-king-jr-dream-speech-1963/
    Some sixty years later, we are still being divided. Not only in what skin color we have, but with the thoughts we hold. Say something inappropriate and you're called names for not joining the team. So it becomes a game of us and them. Who wins?
     
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    It’s crazy you have turned calling a police woman a police office instead of police man into such an issue.
     
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    When I call for the police I can assure you I won't ask what gender will be coming to my aid. It's not an issue to me.
     
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