The towers collapsed rather slowly, really.

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  1. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Above and beyond what Lefty said, how the hell would Rodriguez know when the planes hit? He was 100+ floors below the impact, in an area with no windows, and could not have possibly seen the plane hit the towers. He's changed his story at least a dozen times.

    Make no mistake, Willie was a hero that day. He carried a man out, he saved others by leading them to safety. However, after the fact he started getting attention from woo peddlers, and loved the attention (and the paycheck). He then hopped on the woo bus and rode it to a savings account.

    The fact remains there is absolutely no way Willie could have known if explosions were going off previous to the plane impact, because he had no idea when the plane impact was. He couldn't see it, he is just wanting attention.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    You know more than the eyewitness employee now. You can tell us more precisely what he witnessed better than him. I knew that.
     
  3. leftysergeant

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    High explosive charges do not set fire to people. Jet fuel does.

    What exploded in the basement was jet fuel. There was no adequte supply of jet fuel in the building prior to the crash. Ergo, the explosions occurred after the crash and willie has no bloody clue.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    You weren't there. He was. I'll certainly take his word for it over yours. Thanks just the same.
     
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    He had no experience that would allow him to determine what had blown up. Your faith in his judgement is misplaced, obviously in part because you have no knowledge on which to base a rational conclusion.
     
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    Why would a bomb in the basement be required to go off as the plane hit? What's the point? It makes no logical sense at all.
    In addition, William has changed his tale over the years to make it sound more exciting. His initial story?

    http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/new.york.terror/

    He says nothing of 'explosions'. Nothing about bombs.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Exactly what Hannibal said, there is no logistical reason to set off a bomb in one of the sub basements. It doesn't further the plot of a conspiracy. The building didn't come down for over an hour later. IF a bomb went off it would have been the most useless, weak, pathetic bomb over. The towers were a top down collapse, a bomb in the basement would have actually hindered the "conspiracy" if one had gone off. It would have thrown off the entire thing. If the basement bomb caused a collapse then everyone would know it was a conspiracy. The collapse had to initiate at the point of impact of the plane so that "people would believe it."
     
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    Cause you're a fireman...that's right. I keep forgetting since you quit reminding us every other post.

    Him....or you? No...I don't think it's misplaced at all. He was there. You were not.
     
  9. Hannibal

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    He was there, and he said nothing of explosions or bombs.
     
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    He said the building exploded UPWARD and BEFORE the planes impacted the building. That's what he said and I believe him (since he was there).
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Gonna comment on what I said Rt? Hmmm? How much sense would any of that make since the building didn't collapse for over an hour? Why would they do that? Got any answers? No? Nothing? Didn't think so. kthxbye

    ETA: Also, how did Willie see when the plane hit? He was in an underground level with no windows. How would he know if it was before or after? Answer these basic questions Rt or admit that you're wrong. He couldn't have known, he's making it up.
     
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    It was his testimony that the EXPLOSIONS he felt BEFORE THE PLANES HIT that they came from the basement. He had worked there for many years and I would presume he knows what he heard and where it originated from.
     
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    If it exploded UPWARDS,he'd be DEAD....And there's a LOT of people that 'were there' you think are liars,what makes him so special?

    The fact that he shares your truther madness?
     
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    It does not matter where the explosions came from, they were not from demolition charges. Demolition charges do not set fire to people. Can't you get you r mind around this simple fact?

    You are also stuck with the fact that fire fighters from the station right across the street witnessed the second explosion that set fire to people. It was in the elevator. Willie has no bloody clue when the plane hit.
     
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    Wrong again. Here's his account in an interview with CNN on the afternoon of 9/11.
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.24.html

    Where do you get 'explosions' from 'like moving furniture'?
     
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    Dude...I've seen what he has stated on video. Dance, dance, dance.

    I like how you engage Jango though. It's entertaining to watch the particulars of dancing. Saves me from having to restate things I've tried to express concerning the dance and the participants countless times, and highlights why I gave up on lengthy serious debate some time ago. I guess he's of the mindset he can still expose you. Not me...your dance worked well with me. Too tiring. "Success" I guess asone of the team would call it.
     
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    William Rodriguez interview on 9/11/01.
    Does he say 'explosion' or 'rumble'? Hear it for yourself.

    [video=youtube;rQk3XXBot9c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQk3XXBot9c[/video]

    I'm not disputing that his story changed over the years. I'm also not arguing his heroism.
     
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    As whacked-out as some of Jango's notions are,or how ill-informed, at least he makes an effort to present an argument.

    Your just stating that all A is B because all A is B just does not cut it.
     
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    Who,exactly,did he 'destroy his credibility' with on this board,exactly scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c?
     
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    So if I owned video that shows he said "explosion", you'd concede??
     
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    I already said he's changed his story several times. His first claims were 'rumbling'. He didn't start saying 'explosions' until he went on tour and started fleecing idiots for their money.
     
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    Then why are you trying to establish that he DIDN'T mention explosions, like you did a few posts ago? New move?
     
  25. Hannibal

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    I stated that in his initial interviews, he mentioned no explosions. Only when he started making money from the tragedy.

    In the video I posted - dated 9/11/01 - where does he mention an "explosion that knocked him off his feet" (your claim)?
     

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