The United States Of Deceit

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  1. impermanence

    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    It really isn't very difficult to understand why our country is so incredibly corrupt. Let's just consider lying, our [seemingly] national pastime [although eating, drinking, drugging, swearing, masturbating, and being obsessed with one's favorite electronic devices are all neck and neck and neck and neck and neck and neck].

    And I'll just offer one example [although there are literally a million of them], but this one I believe is truly telling because it is something that affects our children directly.

    Like it or not, professional athletes are often held as role models for many kids immersed in the world of sports. Although sports are not as popular today with kids as they used to be, millions of small people [and many more adults...including myself] find themselves glued to the tv watching their favorite teams and players engaged. Here's the problem...

    In all sports, it is perfectly acceptable for players to "pretend" as if they caught the ball [baseball or football], or "pretend" as if they were fouled while taking a shot [basketball], or any of other theatrics professional athletes have perfected in an attempt to secure an unfair advantage. Nobody says anything about this. It's perfectly acceptable. Completely obvious lying for all to see...no problem at all.

    So the next time you buy a car and leave wondering just how the dealer ripped you to shreds, or arrive at the emergency room and leave with your bank account cleaned out, think about where these people learned that deceiving other people was perfectly ok. Hell, one of these days, they'll probably be telling us that you can [literally] be anything you want!
     
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    In England, we do frown upon how Italians particularly like to cheat at soccer, be that diving or faking an injury. I'm not anti Italian but they are by far the worst at this.

    Idont watch American sports so I can't say how deceitful they can be in sports.
     
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    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    YOu think professional athletes are teaching kids to lie.

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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Congratulation for understanding what I wrote. That's quite an achievement.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    It's not as bad as politics, but it's getting there.

    Are these the same English that disavow white privilege? :)
     
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    Those English, being English footballers. English footballers are the most anti racist sportsman in Europe btw. Fact.
     
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    his point is valid.
     
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    Sorry, but only one of the parties harbors serial liars.
     
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    Not in any large sense, no it isn't. Or are you claiming tRump learned to lie from some football player?
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    Kids are not stupid. Of course they learn from them.
     
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    impermanence Well-Known Member

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    People are people. To claim that one nationality is better than another is a bit...
     
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    Some people are easy marks, apparently. I've gotten goo deals when I buy things... and the medical insurance I have earned from my employer has always covered my medical bills.
    Con artists must see you coming.
     
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    I wouldn't say sports have infected our political discourse as much as entertainment wrestling. Wholesale lying in that "sport" is known as kayfabe.

     
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    Oh where to even begin. Who specifically has had their entire bank account cleaned out due to going to ER? If you get “ripped to shreds” by a car salesmen then you only have yourself to blame.
    I have yet to meet anyone who learned to deceive from watching sports. Your take is…asinine to say the least.
     
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    I'm a physician, Einstein, and I am sure you always get great deals.
     
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    That's right, nobody has ever been taken advantage of buying a car, and nobody is ever financially hammered after a trip to the ER in the U.S., and kids never learn anything from watching sports.

    Thank God there are people out there like you setting the rest of us straight.
     
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    The English football league took the knee for a year longer than all other European leagues during the uefa kick out racism campaign, so yes English footballers are actually the most anti racist footballers in Europe.
     
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    Oh look at you with your straw man arguments. How cute.
    I never claimed no one has been taken advantage of buying a car. What I did say was anyone who has been taken advantage only has themselves to blame.
    You originally claimed peoples bank accounts have been cleaned out from going to ER. You’re now backtracking and changing your claim to “financially hammered”. Which is very different.
    I never claimed kids don’t learn anything from sports. Kids learn lots of things. I learned many things from playing sports. No one learns to be deceitful in life from playing sports. It’s asinine to claim such a thing.
     
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    You think because they took a knee that this demonstrates their true feelings? OK.
     
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    I am not sure what to tell you here. You believe you know all the tricks these folks play?

    Considering the number of people that have virtually no savings in this country, how much of a bill do you think might wipe out the average person's bank account?

    If you witness a constant stream of lying by these people and nothing is said about it, you learn that lying is ok. This isn't rocket science.
     
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    Yes because some clubs and individuals refused. About 80% did and some black players didn't also so there wasn't alot of pressure because for those that didn't, the received no back lash.
     
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    You are a doctor, a provider. I am an engineer. My employer provided the insurance that paid you. I paid nothing. It was part of my compensation... like salary and vacation, et al. I'm sorry that you get ripped off. I don't. "Einstein?" By the way, your insult tends to diminish your credibility. Adults don't need to insult to communicate. Children often do.
     
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    Golf is the only professional sport I watch and only sporadically. You are competing against yourself, the weather, gravity & physics. That it is.
     
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    some even cheat at that

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    Yes it would be.
     
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