The Wealthy Do Pay Income Taxes

But you said "People can test drugs all they want". You mean after they hit the market?

Medical costs are not high due to lack of competition. They're high due to the profit greed and leverage like drugs that keep people alive, so they can charge $1000 per pill "because they can". And the health insurance industry CEOs are the highest paid in the country. Greed. Monopoly, not oligopoly.

Insurance company overhead averages about 23% of revenue while that of Medicare averages 2-3%. Greed.

 

I see so it's not the medical providers, facilities, or medicines that are costly? It's the insurance companies. So we need more insurance companies, preferably mutual insurance companies that are not for profit. People who don't like a 23% overhead should start their own mutual insurance companies that have 0% overhead.

We should let anyone make and sell medicines, so that people can't just charge what they want but have to compete based on price as well.

 

Before. After. Whenever they want to test them. And of course, they don't need to take any medicine that they don't feel has been adequately tested.

 

Do you believe that? I don't. It's all of it plus our fee-for-service system. And it all needs to be addressed.

The rest of the world has shown what works. Why do you resist it?

Now THAT is ...... childishly silly.

 

More ridiculousness. You would subject people to unscrupulous snakeoil salesmen and tell people they can test drugs all they want??? LOL!!! You're not being serious and I'm not interested is debating silly foolishness.

 

Feel free to establish an insurance company that operates to your liking. Nobody is stopping you and whoever else feels as you do from doing so, except maybe the government.

First of all, because the system is based upon violence. Second of all, because it doesn't take incentives into account.

It's not silly. Nobody would force you to take any medicine you didn't feel was adequately tested by whomever you trusted. As I said, we could even keep the FDA around to be a trusted tester. They just shouldn't have the power to protect the oligopoly by forbidding entry into the market.

 

I wouldn't subject anyone to anything. Nobody has to take any drug they don't feel has been adequately tested. As I said, I think that it would be reasonable to keep the FDA around as a testing organization. There would be other more competent ones on the free market, obviously.

 

With all the police shootings and threats to our healthcare and threats of death if we can't afford necessary treatments and medicines, you think this system isn't based on violence that surpasses them all???? LOL!!!!!!

Riiiiiiight. And no one should force you to accept a job that doesn't pay what you want, and no one should force you to send your kid to a school that doesn't teach what you want taught, and, and, and.... and you think you're being reasonable and serious.

 

They always have their responses to that, e.g. the companies will simply move elsewhere, or they'll just pass those taxes along to the consumer.

Bunch of happy little serfs who've been duped into thinking it's their patriotic duty to shoulder so much of the tax burden and get nothing in return that benefits them.

 

That;'s obvious, but not an asset nor valuable.

 

Their overhead and profit are as much as 30%.

Take that out and everything in the healthcare field becomes cheaper by a LOT.

You want to save even more? Let Medicare negotiate for better drug prices like the VA does.

 

That's a good idea. You should start an insurance company with lower overhead and profit. It would help society.

 

Of course it's based on violence. The state uses the threat of violence in order to get money to pay for it.

Agreed

Agreed

Sounds like we're on the same page.

 

Don't need to. The Medicare system is in place. Just let people buy into it

 

Yeah, except that system depends upon the initiation of violence against innocent people. Because of that I can't support it. But if you don't want to hurt others, you could always start your own insurance company with lower profits and overhead.

 

That's what gov does best, as the politicians trade power for priveledge

 

You mentioned the key word, bureaucracy

 

Hey...go somewhere that has no income tax or "violence".

I generally suggest Somalia

 

Yeah, why don't you start a business instead of wanting **** from everyone else.
Your damn costs are so high because you want a complete and total maintenence package, subsidized by others.

 

And I generally suggest North Korea to those who worship the violence of the state.

 

What are you even talking about?

The Medicare system exists and it works. Letting younger healthier people buy into it does two things.

It makes that system stronger and it provides lower cost healthcare for people who need it

 

And notice that @Lesh totally dodged the point that if he (or anyone else) is unhappy with the insurance industry he can establish his own insurance company and run it however he likes. However, the greedy and selfish option is to avoid putting in such work and to merely get what he wants through the violence of government.

 

That "violence of the state" being....income taxes?

 

Yea because I have the millions needed to do that.

That's just stupid. I gave you a viable solution

 

That's one instance, yes.