The Wealthy Do Pay Income Taxes

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  1. Lesh

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    Prove that please
     
  2. Lesh

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    That's not envy it's reality
     
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    the first is reality, the second is some good advice to you
     
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    Sorry I'm tired of playing wack-a-mole with you, you won't address my points opposing such a tax then way you don't support it and now you do so it is useless.
     
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    You think people should refute or negotiate the validity of claims, regardless of their lack of logic. If you believe 2+2 is 5 and base your math on that, it's simply not possible to change your opinions, and only fools waste time on trying to. That is essentially your problem- off on a tangent while the world and it's business move on.

    Rant on, but I won't help you.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ceding control to self serving corporations who rape you without lubricant - is even more foolish.

    The question is not whether or not you are going to be raped silly.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I addressed your claims and now you are building a big strawman. Your claim that it is not possible to feasibly implement a wealth tax on living persons is abject nonsense.

    There are many ways in which a wealth tax/wealth redistribution from living persons- could be accomplished.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did not even address my claims, never mind refute them. Your responses consisted of diversion and and avoidance. The above is then a misrepresentation and a disingenuous joke.

    I gave you specific examples of anti-competitive practices. You did address any of these examples.

    Your claim that such practices do not exist is abject nonsense.
     
  9. squidward

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    you have the right not to do business with anyone.
    Having government grant control by decree is the ultimate stupid.
     
  10. squidward

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    that you lust for other's stuff. Yup
     
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    Yes squid - you have the right to die by not getting critical healthcare.

    This is true whether or not healthcare is provided by Gov't or the Private sector.
     
  12. squidward

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    Nobody was dying.
    Cut the ****.
     
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    Sorry to burst your bubble squid but, choosing not to access healthcare can cause death.
     
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    Insurance is not healthcare. Sorry that concept eludes you
     
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    I don't want anything from the rich personally.

    I do believe that they should chip in for the nation since it affords them so much of it's benefits
     
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    And income isn't wealth...but without one you don't have the other in almost all cases
     
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    It affords everyone the same benefits, so maybe everyone should chip in the same amount.
     
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    So now you build a strawman (insinuating I claimed that Insurance was healthcare when I said no such thing) and then throw out insults on the basis of a misrepresentation because you are out of material.

    I should have known better than to expect something different.
     
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    Don't buy the damn insurance and prices will adjust. Why do you insist on everyone purchasing insurance instead of purchasing healthcare directly?
     
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    I never insisted on everyone purchasing insurance... never even suggested it.
     
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    Is that a fancy way to say you want to leech?
    You exude envy.
     
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    That's the commodity I suggested you were free to not buy
     
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    Income is not wealth if you tax the **** out of it and take it away
     
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    And when your kids get sick ... then what ? Watch them die ? Holy carp some people.

    LOOK - whether you like it or not, the society in which we live provides healthcare to its citizens. Extortion (buy healthcare or die) is frowned upon ... except by freaken dimwits.

    Providing this care costs money. 2 systems. Our system (bureaucracy/private fusion monster) which is more expensive and provides less .. or the other option (bureaucracy monster) which is less expensive and provides more.

    There is no third fantasy option (buy healthcare or die).
     
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    You don't need maintenence plans to get access to healthcare. Stop with the hyperbole.
    It's very politician like, but false.

    Catastrophic plans only and out of pocket for day to day stuff would save everyone a fortune, as prices would adjust.

    There are free clinics everywhere residents train. There is and always has been access to healthcare for the uninsured
     
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