The whats happening in Egypt breaking right now thread

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  1. Abu Sina

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    This thread is to keep up to date with daily news coming out of Egypt.


    Egyptian Constitution News
    Aug 20th


    First 3 articles of the new constitution of which the whole thing will be made public tomorrow

    First article

    The Arab Republic of Egypt is an independent and sovereign state that is united, and that democracy is its system of governance. It also says the Egyptian people are part of the Arab and Islamic nations, proud of their part in the Nile Basin, the African continent and the Middle East.

    Second article

    Islam is Egypt's state religion, Arabic is its official language, and the principles of Islamic law are the main source of legislation.

    Third article

    Principles of the laws of Egyptian Christians and Jews are the main source of legislation governing their personal and religious affairs, as well as the choice of their spiritual leaders.

    Source
    Masry Youm Arabic article
     
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    Ikhwan News


    Mahmoud Ezzat becomes Ikhwan supreme guide Fuhrer (Murchid) after Badie arrest today

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    Arabic talk 'unconfirmed' yet

    Baradei ? left Egypt to EU and emptied bank account and left only his villa in Giza
     
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    Egypt Cabinet on EU

    Foreign Minister Assistant EU Affairs Hatem Saif Al Nasr stated credibility of some European countries at stake as a result of their responses to the situation in Egypt.

    “It is not just about official relations between Egypt and these countries, but it also applies to Egyptian public opinion, which has become increasingly bitter towards the stances of some European countries....These attitudes also encourage the persistence of practices of violence and terrorism, which negatively reflect on attempts to implement the road map and the path of the political process through the transitional period"

    Egyptian Churches condemn foreign interference in the Egyptian affairs.

    Al-Azhar reject foreign interference in Egypt.

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    Erdogan

    Claims "Israel behind coup in Egypt"


    Yes Erdogan of course habibi they are
    Tamarod and 23 million love Israel :roflol:
     
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    Saudi


    Egyptian Military airport unloaded 2 military planes this morning filled with aid for Egyptian army and Saudi officials say that more deliveries will continue this week as they stand with Egyptians and promise full support if USA and EU stop helping Egypt.
     
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    Egypt was centre of collapse of British and French superpower domination in 1954 and it's collapse and Egypt is today at centre of collapse of the US Israeli controlled superpower that took over

    Russia will be the winner in all of this with a much stronger Arab world as an ally I can see coming and total collapse of US empire

    What Arabs need to do now is fix Iraq disaster, Syria and Libya disaster, Afghan disaster and fix ties with Iran

    Become stronger with China and India as the world is changing and a new chapter is beginning
     
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    Qatar News

    Second gas shipment left Doha to Egypt

    I feel the emir who resigned must have realised the bigger picture and to lose Egypt as an ally would be disaster for Qatar petrol station.
    New emir possibly doing a 180 like Saudi now??? we shall see
     
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    Funeral for the 25 off duty civilian clothed unarmed conscripts doing military service who were captured and executed by ikhwan terrorists as they went home for weekend from Sinai

    I wonder how many Western leaders would accept this to their soldiers aged between 18-21 .................................



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    So you dont see reconciliation at all with them ? thay are a big part of Egypt are they not?
     
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    BREAKING!

    Arrest warrant issued for that basket of cobras! El Baradei now who resigned and fled to Austria when the news About Khairat Al Shatr Mc Cain and Ashton hit the media about information on Obama that could land him in jail

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    A big prison needs to be built in the Western desert and they all need to be rounded up and put in it and the key thrown in the Nile
     
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    It's ' whats happening in Egypt breaking right now ', Jim,

    .....but not as we know it
    not as we know it
     
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    They are making a big mistake right at the start. Democracy is a scam, and has been since it was first invented thousands of years ago. And what is the "The Arab Republic of Egypt"? And, just who is sovereign?

    Is the Egyptian man sovereign under the Great Sovereign of the Universe? Or is some group of rich guys Sovereign?
     
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    John McCain and Lindsey Graham - called for the release of detained members of the Muslim Brotherhood and the beginning of a national dialogue to bring Egypt to democratic rule.

    The comments, calling the detainees "political prisoners" and referring to the overthrow of President Mohammed Morsi - who was last year elected to the post - as a "coup" were denounced by interim Egyptian President Adly Mansour. In a brief statement, Mansour described the remarks as "unacceptable interference in internal politics."...http://impeachobamatoday.blogspot.com/2013/08/obama-pals-mccain-and-lindsey-graham.html

    8/18/13, "Egypt: Islamists hit Christian churches," AP, Hamza Hendaw

    "Nearly 40 churches have been looted and torched, while 23 others have been attacked and heavily damaged since Wednesday....Islamists have attacked dozens of Coptic churches along with homes and businesses owned by the Christian minority....

    Waheeb, other activists and victims of the latest wave of attacks... The attacks, they said, coincided with assaults on police stations in provinces like Bani Suef and Minya, leaving most police pinned down to defend their stations or reinforcing others rather than rushing to the rescue of Christians under attack.
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    Another Christian activist, Ezzat Ibrahim of Minya, a province also south of Cairo where Christians make up around 35 percent of the population, said police have melted away from seven of the region's nine districts, leaving the extremists to act with near impunity....
    http://impeachobamatoday.blogspot.com/2013/08/bloody-hands-of-mccain-graham-and-vichy.html
     

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    Qattara depression ?

    where I hope they can given all required tools to dig a channel to the Med - those who make it can then be set free to go to any of those countries who're now so concerned abt their "democratic rights ". (wink)

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    Top US lawmakers have quietly agreed to temporarily suspend most military aid to Egypt, indicating that behind the scenes Washington is starting to treat the military’s ouster of President Morsi as a coup, according to a new report.

    The Obama administration has temporarily halted the delivery of weapons to the Egyptian military as well as some forms of economic aid to the government, despite deciding not to officially describe the military takeover as a coup.

    The office of Senator Patrick Leahy, the head of the Appropriations State and Foreign Operations Subcommittee, told The Daily Beast on Monday that the administration has implemented these changes over the past month as it formulates an official determination on the coup.
    http://rt.com/news/obama-suspend-aid-egypt-695/
     
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    Saudis recently tried to bribe Russia to abandone Syria,
    Now that the Egypt is no longer under Saudi backed "Muslim" Brotherhood, the Saudis are afraid of Egypt.
    So, the Saudis are trying to bribe Egypt too?
     
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    The Gulf is doing a 180 and realises that US foreign policy is disaster finally for them
     
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    What was US State dept Bill Burns doing in that prison meeting with Khairat al Shatr?

    Why US and EU diplomats were desperate to secure release of Ikhwan leadership?



    EXHIBIT A

    is a video shot from a cell phone at the scene of the attacks. In this video, gunmen are seen running toward the camera, toward other gunmen. At one point – in Arabic which we have confirmed – one approaching gunman says, “Don’t Shoot us! We were sent by Mursi!”. Even though the video is in Arabic, you can discern the word “Mursi”.

    [video=youtube;Qk3Hw6Quk60]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk3Hw6Quk60[/video]



    A Libyan intelligence document has been produced that directly implicates Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood president Mohammed Mursi in the attacks on American installations in Benghazi on 9/11/12. Those who attempt to discredit this document run into trouble when it is coupled with real-time video we uncovered on 9/13/12. In that video, gunmen at the scene of the attack can be heard declaring that they were sent by Mursi.

    After weeks of attempting to push the narrative that a video was responsible, the Obama administration ultimately had to concede that the attacks in Benghazi were terrorist in nature. A few months after 9/11/12, the top lawyer for the Pentagon stated that the war on terror should be waged by “law enforcement and intelligence agencies”.

    Based on the Obama administration’s standard, the Benghazi attacks should be treated as a crime instead of as an act of war. Therefore, let us bring forth the evidence, which implicates the leader of a nation state (Egypt) in the attack and warrants a grand jury (House of Representatives) investigation to decide if administration officials should be indicted (impeached).

    Since we’re deciding who to indict, we must look at evidence of involvement in the attack. Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood President – Mohammed Mursi – is a good place to start. Our first two exhibits are both damning but when taken together, may just constitute a ‘smoking gun’. EXHIBIT A is a video shot from a cell phone at the scene of the attacks. In this video, gunmen are seen running toward the camera, toward other gunmen. At one point – in Arabic which we have confirmed – one approaching gunman says, “Don’t Shoot us! We were sent by Mursi!”. Even though the video is in Arabic, you can discern the word “Mursi”.

    EXHIBIT B

    A Libyan Intelligence document has now been brought forward by credible Arabic translator Raymond Ibrahim. This document discusses the confessions of six members of an Egyptian Ansar al-Sharia cell who were arrested and found to be involved in the Benghazi attacks. Ibrahim reported the following about this document:

    It discusses the preliminary findings of the investigation, specifically concerning an “Egyptian cell” which was involved in the consulate attack. “Based on confessions derived from some of those arrested at the scene” six people, “all of them Egyptians” from the jihad group Ansar al-Sharia (“Supporters of Islamic Law), were arrested.

    According to the report, during interrogations, these Egyptian jihadi cell members “confessed to very serious and important information concerning the financial sources of the group and the planners of the event and the storming and burning of the U.S. consulate in Benghazi…. And among the more prominent figures whose names were mentioned by cell members during confessions were: Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi…


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    I don't remember where I read it but I shall try to find it again. A business man who was in Benghazi at the time, before we bombed Libya, said that there was NO military presence only scuffles between protesters and police and that there were suddenly Egyptian soldiers there figting and making the real troubles ................... I don't really remember it all but it stuck in my mind because he was definite about the soldiers being Egyptian and it made no sense until now


    What tangled webs ........................
     
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    Assuming that Morsi was part of a plan to get rid of the Ambassador, we need to find out why.
    Did the Ambassador know too much?
    After all he was involved with bringing the Talmu-"Islamic" Allah-Akhbar killers and helping them destroy Libya.
     
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    Wow... that's certainly the first I've heard of this. Quite the accusation and crazy if it's true..I would have to ask is why. If we are to believe the reports of the gun running from Libya to Syria, wouldn't Mursi approve of that? Why would he have them attacked? He was anti Assad right?
     
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    Have you seen what they have done to the police? Murdering and chopping them up!

    The government told police to use tear gas and not live rounds

    Would you face these barbarians with machine guns and machete or would you disappear as they come into a village too?
     
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    Not Egyptian soldiers
    They were Egyptian fighters who entered Benghazi

    If you go back and read my posts about Libya I was saying what was happening.

    Benghazi was a problem for Gaddaffi because he could not keep it under his control. It was a militant place filled with Wahabi salafists. That was why Libya problem started in Benghazi. US ambassador was there for a reason :wink: He got in too deep though and they killed him.
    Gaddaffi was right and I think at the time I was the only one here supporting Gaddaffi while everyone was cheering the US and French bombers. Now they got what they wanted. The oil and Gaddaffi gone who kept AQ out of Libya.



    Let me explain

    USA + NATO destroys Libyan Army to make Libya weak

    That opens up Gaddaffi weapons warehouses to rebels

    Those rebels then ship them to Syria to help US take down Assad US's other enemy

    Other rebels take them through Libyas Salloum crossing into Egypt to Sinai to Gaza to destabilize Egypt and arm Hamas.

    You would have to be blind or stupid not to see what happened and what was planned.

    The thing is the US is supposed to hate Hamas BUT it's seems that Obama may not hate Hamas in fact because he supported Ikhwan and knew that killing Gaddaffi would open a trade route of weapons all over to the cou8ntries surrounding Israel.
    It's almost like he is trying to bring down Israel in some weird way because I can find no other explanation for what Obama is doing can you?

    It's a case of evil from US knowing they are carrying out this madness or it's a case of complete utter ignorance by leadership on consequences of their actions

    or it might be both but any sane person must know by now that USA supports terrorism and terrorists and is actively funding and helping them

    It's just that sometimes those terrorists switch sides and Americans are too stupid to see that
     
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    Red Sea Tourism down by 50%

    I am glad to hear this!!

    I thought it would be much more :thumbsup:
     
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    I too supported Gaddafi/ I do not doubt or deny that he was a bastard but as with Saddam there was order in Libya and their, Libyas hope for a less repressive regime was in Gaddafis son. It would have been organic and slow but theirs, what we did was absolutely evil.
     
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    Probebly all those Israeli Arab Knesset members traveling to Sinai to support the Ikhwan.....
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4419747,00.html

    The Hebrew version states Zahalka is currently staying in Sinai.
     

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